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The CORAL CUP Handicap Hurdle

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  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

    from a good source Moby123 ?
    Yes, the owner.

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    • Originally posted by Moby123 View Post

      The current plan is that The Shunter comes here rather than the chase options.
      Good news if he does as I included him in multiples only yesterday evening. It really was his only possible winning opportunity imo. Hope they can find a decent claimer.

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        Good news if he does as I included him in multiples only yesterday evening. It really was his only possible winning opportunity imo. Hope they can find a decent claimer.
        Mr Gainford for another Cheltenham win

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        • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
          Cormier, Faivoir, and Saint D'Oroux the ones of interest to me too. I prefer the first two though, and if pushed I'd side with Cormier.
          Hope you did the tricast

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          • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
            Cormier, Faivoir, and Saint D'Oroux the ones of interest to me too. I prefer the first two though, and if pushed I'd side with Cormier.
            And did I think to do the tricast!!! Just short of 1k to a pound.
            Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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            • Originally posted by DenmanSacre View Post

              Mr Gainford for another Cheltenham win
              What's his claim in the UK these days?

              Possible for R James to go on him?

              If they even claimed.

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              • Originally posted by jack1092 View Post

                What's his claim in the UK these days?

                Possible for R James to go on him?

                If they even claimed.
                Would be 3lbs

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                • He's not much of a price but I think Saint Felicien is extremely interesting for this race.

                  I'm now happy with what stakes I have on him that I'll make the case now.

                  He's only had three starts over hurdles, winning two (1 in France) and finishing 2nd in a Grade 3. I know some on here believed he could well turn into a Champion Hurdle contender. I think he's probably shown that to not be the case now, however, that doesn't mean he isn't a very exciting prospect. He's a horse I'd be expecting up in trip (and over a fence in time). His breeding suggests this and his run in Auteuil, on his hurdles debut, over 2m1 1/2f would give the impression he'd be suited by further, pulling well clear in the latter part of that race. The form from that French run isn't looking too bad either.

                  He reminds me a fair bit of Galopin Des Champs, for Willie Mullins, maybe with a little bit more speed, given his performances over 2m. He can't run in the Martin Pipe though, as he's rated too high, but that won't stop him running here. Another horse and profile he is similar of is previous Coral Cup winner, Aux Ptits Soins, he had only ever had two hurdle runs in his career, before winning the race, albeit, both of them runs came in France.

                  I noticed Gordon has The Bosses Oscar entered up, and it's also TBO's only festival entry, so I wonder if he'll leave him in the race to keep the weights down a little, although even with him in the race Saint Felicien would still have to carry 11-7. I would not be surprised to see Jordan Gainford jocked up on him, claiming 3lbs. He's ridden Gordon trained Robcour horses previously, and that extra 3lbs off would be a bonus.

                  Gordon has a fair few entered in the race currently, but I believe most of them are going elsewhere at the festival. He may well run 1 or 2 others, but I think this lad is going to be the pick of them, and I can see a real plunge on him taking place on the day.



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                  • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                    He's not much of a price but I think Saint Felicien is extremely interesting for this race.
                    This is his only entry now isn't it ?

                    I went in for Thedevislcoachman but he is far from a certain runner so my only interest in this is The Shunter but I'd be shocked if I don't have a decent play SF on the day...

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                    • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                      This is his only entry now isn't it ?
                      Yeah, too high for the Martin Pipe

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                      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                        Yeah, too high for the Martin Pipe
                        Was there not talk of the County, or did I dream that ?

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                        • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                          Was there not talk of the County, or did I dream that ?
                          Yeah, wasn't entered for it though

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                          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                            He's not much of a price but I think Saint Felicien is extremely interesting for this race.

                            I'm now happy with what stakes I have on him that I'll make the case now.

                            He's only had three starts over hurdles, winning two (1 in France) and finishing 2nd in a Grade 3. I know some on here believed he could well turn into a Champion Hurdle contender. I think he's probably shown that to not be the case now, however, that doesn't mean he isn't a very exciting prospect. He's a horse I'd be expecting up in trip (and over a fence in time). His breeding suggests this and his run in Auteuil, on his hurdles debut, over 2m1 1/2f would give the impression he'd be suited by further, pulling well clear in the latter part of that race. The form from that French run isn't looking too bad either.

                            He reminds me a fair bit of Galopin Des Champs, for Willie Mullins, maybe with a little bit more speed, given his performances over 2m. He can't run in the Martin Pipe though, as he's rated too high, but that won't stop him running here. Another horse and profile he is similar of is previous Coral Cup winner, Aux Ptits Soins, he had only ever had two hurdle runs in his career, before winning the race, albeit, both of them runs came in France.

                            I noticed Gordon has The Bosses Oscar entered up, and it's also TBO's only festival entry, so I wonder if he'll leave him in the race to keep the weights down a little, although even with him in the race Saint Felicien would still have to carry 11-7. I would not be surprised to see Jordan Gainford jocked up on him, claiming 3lbs. He's ridden Gordon trained Robcour horses previously, and that extra 3lbs off would be a bonus.

                            Gordon has a fair few entered in the race currently, but I believe most of them are going elsewhere at the festival. He may well run 1 or 2 others, but I think this lad is going to be the pick of them, and I can see a real plunge on him taking place on the day.


                            I'm prob in the minority but I'm more than happy for him to take up a nice chunk of the head of the market on race day, He's clearly got ability and will end up more than decent but a lightly raced 5yo coming into a Coral Cup off 149, he's going to have to be a very very good horse to defy inexperience and such a mark this early in his career imo. Aux Pitts Soins was an unknown quantity and ran off 139, a mark of around 149 would of had him beat, the recent classy winners all had some course form as well as a run with solid figures over an intermediate trip too the likes of Supasundae & William Henry. If I'm backing a horse in the 149/150 bracket in hcaps ideally you could do with a bit of course form or at least some big field hcap experience imo , will happily follow his path down the line thou.
                            Last edited by Outlaw; 7 March 2022, 04:56 PM.

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                            • Originally posted by Outlaw View Post

                              I'm prob in the minority but I'm more than happy for him to take up a nice chunk of the head of the market on race day, He's clearly got ability and will end up more than decent but a lightly raced 5yo coming into a Coral Cup off 149, he's going to have to be a very very good horse to defy inexperience and such a mark this early in his career imo. Aux Pitts Soins was an unknown quantity and ran off 139, a mark of around 149 would of had him beat, the recent classy winners all had some course form as well as a run with solid figures over an intermediate trip too the likes of Supasundae & William Henry. If I'm backing a horse in the 149/150 bracket in hcaps ideally you could do with a bit of course form or at least some big field hcap experience imo , will happily follow his path down the line thou.
                              His rating is a valid point and was something I had considered a fair amount.

                              Aux Ptits Soins was pretty much a handicapper through his career, and, of course, Saint Felicien could well go the same way, however I think he has a fair amount of class, and the improvement will come about for the step up in trip, as his breeding and that Auteuil run, would suggest.

                              I can understand why some or even many may choose to leave him alone for the race, at the price he is, I guess I'm banking on the class and step up in trip angle.

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                              • ….this is the no1 target for Cobblers Dream. Gowel Road target undecided, Camprond & Guard Your Dreams update;

                                https://cheltenham.attheraces.com/st...t-from-britain
                                Last edited by Eggs; 8 March 2022, 05:16 AM.

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