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I think he was rated less than 145 when he was entered but was reassessed before the weights came out and was put up to 146. I believe that you are allowed to run if up to 2lb over the limit (i.e. up to 147) as long as the race doesn't fill. -
If you think about it really hard.
A horse rated 145 could win after the weights are announced, and the penalty would mean he has to carry 12 3.
So the rule is there for that reason, but they occasionally allow a runner when it is just a re assessment.Comment
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Yeah, this stacks up.Originally posted by Buckingham View Post
But not under a 5lb penalty, the rules seem pretty clear on that, on page 1 of every handicap thread.Comment
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Interesting though if you look at last year. His official weight for the MP was 11st 2, even though he was running off 11st 7 with the penalty. So say he wins well at Taunton and is put up to 145, then wins the imperial cup and gets the 5lb penalty. Then I’d imagine he’ll be shown as running at 11st 12, but is actually running at 12st 3. Dont think the rules could be anymore straightforward reallyOriginally posted by Quevega View PostComment
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I had a laughing face at the end which wasn’t posted. Doesn’t make any sense at all but I think it’s what the craic is. Def time to move on lolOriginally posted by Quevega View PostComment
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Didn’t hunt ball win after the weights were released getting him 5lbs, but not taking him out of the race due to winning after this had happened and only incurring the penalty. I’m sure you get 5lbs for 1 win and 8lb for two wins post weights in a handicap like that. May also be misremembering this
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No..........Originally posted by Cunningham View PostDidn’t hunt ball win after the weights were released getting him 5lbs, but not taking him out of the race due to winning after this had happened and only incurring the penalty. I’m sure you get 5lbs for 1 win and 8lb for two wins post weights in a handicap like that. May also be misremembering thisComment
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The posts Above mine hadnt loaded at the time, and was clearly misremembering. Did find this though for clarity - “Hunt Ball defied 12st in 2012, despite the fact that the maximum weight allowed is officially 11st 12lb. He was allowed to take his chance in the race as he was rated 127 when the entries closed in February. He recorded a 10-length victory in a Kempton Park handicap chase before the weights were announced, which earned him a rating of 142, meaning that he was allowed to carry 12st, 2lb above the top-weight of 11st 12lb”Comment
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Paul said Mcfab going to the coral cup! thats interesting. Going to be in the top 5 weights surely ?Comment
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Post #1 shows historic top/bottom ratings, top weight ranges 150-158 averaging around 155 but as Nicholls pointed out during the preview discussion handicaps can get condensed so it won’t be a case of giving away a stone or more to half the field…Originally posted by punterorplonker View PostComment
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Definitely his trip for me.
He's probably worth his rating too, with not much extra to give.... so the assumption is that there will always be something 'well-in' against him. The kind of horse in a handicap I think will run to their mark which sets the standard that you have to beat...
So it's hard before the weights actually come out to know how good a bet it would be.
I think he'd go off shorter than he is though.Comment
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Exactly. I am on at 22s. Topofthegame was 9/1
MCFabulooussssssComment
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Think McFabulous will be a cracking E/W bet for this race and have just added him myself.Comment
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No Fils D'Oudairies, in any of the handicapsComment
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