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Johnny Henderson GRAND ANNUAL Challenge Cup Handicap Chase

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  • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
    Seeing as we're doing the trends updates... I landed on American Mike here. Which would've seemed ridiculous to me a few months ago. And then I was surprised at how short his price was now
    He's just a horse than you know will win a big one and you can't back at single figures

    If he wins, so-be-it, but come onnnnn


    I'm just bitter cos I really liked him and thought I was being clever and then saw the price and thought oh fuck offfff

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    • American Mike is a bit of a cliff horse over 3m for me, but I don't think he's a good enough jumper to win a real prize at 2m.

      Hopeful this helps push Firefox to the Arkle though

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      • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
        American Mike is a bit of a cliff horse over 3m for me, but I don't think he's a good enough jumper to win a real prize at 2m.

        Hopeful this helps push Firefox to the Arkle though
        I think Firefox is Arkle or step up to Jack Richards isn't he?

        If the RJ was still the 'JLT' he'd almost certainly have been in that?

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

          He's just a horse than you know will win a big one and you can't back at single figures

          If he wins, so-be-it, but come onnnnn


          I'm just bitter cos I really liked him and thought I was being clever and then saw the price and thought oh fuck offfff
          Aye, similar feelings . I'm fairly hopeful of double figures and loads of places on the day. Then I'll be getting involved.

          ​​​​They seemed pretty set on the novice handicap for Firefox I thought.

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

            I think Firefox is Arkle or step up to Jack Richards isn't he?

            If the RJ was still the 'JLT' he'd almost certainly have been in that?
            I would think the exchanges have him stepping up too, Better ground ,up in trip ,the jr 's sounds like a plan.

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            • American Mike
              Firefox
              Handicap double would annoy the heck out of me, so I might back that as a somewhat related double

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              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                American Mike
                Firefox
                Handicap double would annoy the heck out of me, so I might back that as a somewhat related double
                I get Firefox, but American Mike is just a dog isn't he?

                Wildly overrated throughout his career, always well backed and always flatters to deceive. Doesn't look a horse that had been hiding his ability either?

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                • Do you believe all of the handicaps are going to be won by horses that have been 'hiding their ability'?
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                  • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                    Do you believe all of the handicaps are going to be won by horses that have been 'hiding their ability'?
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                    Not all of them no, but to win a hcap at the festival, you need to have lbs in hand, I'd say thats obvious?

                    And I don't think American Mike has that off 148.

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                    • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                      Not all of them no, but to win a hcap at the festival, you need to have lbs in hand, I'd say thats obvious?

                      And I don't think American Mike has that off 148.
                      Aye, to win a handicap you need lbs in hand as the pure intention of a handicap.

                      I just think if you looked at past winners of handicaps at the festival, including this race, ones 'hiding' wouldn't be a necessity and is something that we can blindly focus on... And just assume those with shite form from the usual suspect have been 'hiding'.

                      He's got bits and pieces of form that could have him better than 148 to be honest, and 2lb Irish tax is better than some.

                      I choose to believe this race will be perfect and he's been a 2 miler all along. But I only came to that conclusion yesterday by chance

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                      • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

                        Aye, to win a handicap you need lbs in hand as the pure intention of a handicap.

                        I just think if you looked at past winners of handicaps at the festival, including this race, ones 'hiding' wouldn't be a necessity and is something that we can blindly focus on... And just assume those with shite form from the usual suspect have been 'hiding'.

                        He's got bits and pieces of form that could have him better than 148 to be honest, and 2lb Irish tax is better than some.

                        I choose to believe this race will be perfect and he's been a 2 miler all along. But I only came to that conclusion yesterday by chance
                        I'm absolutely loving your approach to things these days.

                        Like a modern human who has been brought up on social media but actually has some self awareness and humility.

                        "I choose Life" & "I choose Freedom", have been usurped with "I Choose to Believe".

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                        • Originally posted by darlojim View Post

                          I get Firefox, but American Mike is just a dog isn't he?

                          Wildly overrated throughout his career, always well backed and always flatters to deceive. Doesn't look a horse that had been hiding his ability either?
                          A bit, but every dog has his day

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                          • JPR One & My Mate Mozzie for me.

                            Don’t think there’s any obvious plot that’ll be good enough to win. And I think the lightning fast gallop they go in this year after year will play into the hands of both of these. Both double figures. That will do me.

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                            • Originally posted by Middle_Of_March View Post
                              JPR One & My Mate Mozzie for me.

                              Don’t think there’s any obvious plot that’ll be good enough to win. And I think the lightning fast gallop they go in this year after year will play into the hands of both of these. Both double figures. That will do me.
                              That’s the two I’m on, so hope you are right. Sweeter on MMM, think he’s got a bit of class about him in this field.

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                              • Originally posted by Magpie View Post

                                That’s the two I’m on, so hope you are right. Sweeter on MMM, think he’s got a bit of class about him in this field.
                                He’s one of those quirky horses that seems to relish the opportunity to come off the pace and enjoy passing horses. A bit like One For Arthur used to. A typical fast paced grand annual should suit him

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