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Johnny Henderson GRAND ANNUAL Challenge Cup Handicap Chase

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  • Originally posted by Speedy17 View Post
    Sounds like Final Orders will come here now instead of the Arkle according to Gavin Cromwell.
    Yeah makes sense, only 1lb higher over here than in Ireland.... puts him better off with most of the Irish he'd be comign up against than if they ran in Ireland, so I can see why they would.

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    • I backed it a while ago, and have been surprised the lack of interest in it since.
      This may have been because it's Not now an intended runner.
      But Fils Doudairies looks on good terms with himself after that spin round over hurdles, and even though it was an unsatisfactory race it makes him look well handicapped.
      Be interesting what they say after the race today as Gordon namechecked him for the Grand Annual a couple weeks back and it was strongly backed in Dublin and went off 3-1.
      They are definitely planning a big handicap with this horse I reckon.
      Can run in the Annual with no penalty I believe. (might be wrong)

      NRNB - No brainer

      edit - think he may get a penalty. 5lb

      edit 2 - maybe not (fuck knows, don't care)
      Last edited by Quevega; 5 March 2023, 02:17 PM.

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      • Can somebody save me some time please....

        Which of the Sam Thomas runners wins?

        Before Midnight or Grey Diamond?
        Last edited by Kevloaf; 7 March 2023, 10:41 PM.

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
          Can somebody save me sopme time please....

          Which of the Sam Thomas runners wins?

          Before Midnight or Grey Diamond?
          Grey Diamond if he gets in but it will be tight.

          What I wrote on the 24 hour thread for the race:

          The fall last time is a negative but it wasn't a bad jump - he just didn't get his feet out properly on landing.

          He placed over 2m at Cheltenham this year. First was Amarillo Sky who won next time out and then 4th beaten 9 lengths in the Clarence House. Was rated 140, now 155.

          2nd was Fugitif, who won next time out and then 2nd last month in a Cheltenham handicap. Was rated 131, now rated 149.

          Malystic was pulled up and won his next 2 races.

          Grey Diamond was off 131 in that race and now 135.

          Last time he travelled incredibly well until the fall and would have been 1st or 2nd for me. Put up 2 pounds for that but he has half a stone in hand for me at least.

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
            Can somebody save me sopme time please....

            Which of the Sam Thomas runners wins?

            Before Midnight or Grey Diamond?
            I'd say Before Midnight, I'd prefer a prominent runner and he will definitely get in, not sure if Grey Diamond will get in?

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            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
              Can somebody save me sopme time please....

              Which of the Sam Thomas runners wins?

              Before Midnight or Grey Diamond?
              GD of the two for me. His course form with Fugitif and Amarillo Sky is very good.

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              • Grey Diamond and Fugitif related double?

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                • Fav Aucunrisque to miss race and run in County Hurdle instead following poor school.

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                  • Saint Roi not confirmed

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                    • Originally posted by Bayoffreedom View Post
                      Saint Roi not confirmed
                      Arkle all the way then !

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                      • Rouge Vif needs 12 to come out for a run

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                        • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post
                          Rouge Vif needs 12 to come out for a run

                          ….suggests Frero & Grey Diamond might struggle.

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                          • Originally posted by Madmoose View Post
                            Rouge Vif needs 12 to come out for a run
                            Doesn't look good. Ground may be against him as well.

                            Never mind....it's the thought that counts

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                            • Originally posted by Eggs View Post


                              ….suggests Frero & Grey Diamond might struggle.
                              Frero going for the Plate isnt he?

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                              • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post

                                Frero going for the Plate isnt he?
                                ….I imagine so. Not sure if he’s still in this.

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