PADDY POWER PLATE Handicap Chase

[Istabraq]

Don't worry Istabraq
He'll not run off that mark, and definitely won't win anyhow, if he did,
Cheers Moby.

As someone who doesn't own an account that gets NRNB I can't tell you how close I was to hitting the only account I can play, the 9/1 Unibet.
Thankfully I have a mate who landed at Gatwick about 2 hours ago who was contactable and I got 8/1 NRNB.
I think I got lucky, and hope he doesn't go, and that I learn from this...

[Quevega]

As someone who doesn't own an account that gets NRNB I can't tell you how close I was to hitting the only account I can play, the 9/1 Unibet.
Thankfully I have a mate who landed at Gatwick about 2 hours ago who was contactable and I got 8/1 NRNB.
I think I got lucky, and hope he doesn't go, and that I learn from this...

I don;t think Moby did it on purpose. FWIW

[Saxon Warrior]

Big Fish = Moby123?

Not a big stretch for Forum Members is it? - seriously

Of course you can believe him if you want to.

He would like that very much.

You lost Spectre posting for most of this year partly because of him.

How many more of us do you want to stop posting?

[Magpie]

Just having a look at the post, not another tw*t putting up wrong ratings. What a lunatic. I’ll apologise if Moby is giving sound info

[Saxon Warrior]

The weights are embargoed and the Irish ratings until after the press day tomorrow at Noon.

I have spoken to the BHA about it yesterday,

Thats on the BHA website and on Twitter now, confirming it.

I had it confirmed to me yesterday as I spent hours tracking down that Embargo and Press Day information.

[Can't Catch Me]

Any other Frero Banbou backers worried about him getting in?

Currently 46th on the list

[charlie]

4.10pm Magners Plate Handicap Chase (Premier Handicap) 2m 4f 127y

Horse Age Weight Rating Owner Trainer

Hitman (FR) 7 12 0 159 Mason, Hogarth, Ferguson & Done Paul Nicholls

Haut En Couleurs (FR) 6 11 12 157 Mrs J. Donnelly W. P. Mullins

Two For Gold (IRE) 10 11 11 156 May We Never Be Found Out Partnership 2 Kim Bailey

French Dynamite (FR) 8 11 10 155 Robcour M. F. Morris

Stolen Silver (FR) 8 11 9 154 Walters Plant Hire & Potter Group Sam Thomas

Minella Drama (IRE) 8 11 9 154 Green Day Racing Donald McCain

Adamantly Chosen (IRE) 6 11 8 153 Watch This Space Syndicate W. P. Mullins

Stage Star (IRE) 7 11 7 152 Owners Group 044 Paul Nicholls

Midnight River (GB) 8 11 7 152 Mr Frank McAleavy Dan Skelton

Balco Coastal (FR) 7 11 6 151 Mr Mark Blandford Nicky Henderson

Escaria Ten (FR) 9 11 6 151 McNeill Family Gordon Elliott

I Am Maximus (FR) 7 11 6 151 Mr Claudio Michael Grech W. P. Mullins

Fastorslow (FR) 7 11 5 150 Sean & Bernardine Mulryan Martin Brassil

Kilcruit (IRE) 8 11 4 149 Miss M. A. Masterson W. P. Mullins

Riviere d'Etel (FR) 6 11 4 149 Bective Stud Gordon Elliott

Fil Dor (FR) 5 11 4 151 Caldwell Construction Ltd Gordon Elliott

Fugitif (FR) 8 11 4 149 Mr Carl Hinchy & Dr Emad Hussain Richard Hobson

Fire Attack (IRE) 8 11 2 147 Gigginstown House Stud Joseph Patrick O'Brien

Elixir de Nutz (FR) 9 11 2 147 Mr Terry Warner Joe Tizzard

Minella Trump (IRE) 9 11 2 147 Mr T. G. Leslie Donald McCain

Il Ridoto (FR) 6 11 1 146 Giles, Hogarth, Mason & McGoff Paul Nicholls

Midnight Run (IRE) 9 11 1 146 Gigginstown House Stud Joseph Patrick O'Brien

Dads Lad (IRE) 8 11 0 145 Whitegrass Racing Syndicate W. P. Mullins

Bold Endeavour (GB) 7 11 0 145 Countrywide Park Homes Ltd Nicky Henderson

Call Me Lyreen (IRE) 7 11 0 145 Lyreen Syndicate Gordon Elliott

Datsalrightgino (GER) 7 11 0 145 The GD Partnership Jamie Snowden

Fusil Raffles (FR) 8 11 0 145 Mr Simon Munir & Mr Isaac Souede Nicky Henderson

Embittered (IRE) 9 11 0 145 Gigginstown House Stud Joseph Patrick O'Brien

Next Destination (IRE) 11 11 0 145 Mr Malcolm C. Denmark Nicky Henderson

War Lord (GER) 8 10 13 144 The Wychwood Partnership Joe Tizzard

Battleoverdoyen (IRE) 10 10 13 144 Pioneer Racing Gordon Elliott

Coole Cody (IRE) 12 10 12 143 Mr W. Clifford Evan Williams

So Scottish (FR) 6 10 12 143 Mr John P. McManus Emmet Mullins

Seddon (IRE) 10 10 12 143 Galaxy Horse Racing Syndicate John McConnell

Marvel de Cerisy (FR) 6 10 11 142 Mr C. B. Woods Henry de Bromhead

Champagne Gold (IRE) 8 10 11 142 Mr Barry Maloney Henry de Bromhead

Fantastic Lady (FR) 8 10 10 141 Mr E. R. Hanbury Nicky Henderson

Francky du Berlais (FR) 10 10 10 141 Mr Roddy Owen Peter Bowen

Flic Ou Voyou (FR) 9 10 8 139 Mr Colm Donlon Paul Nicholls

Shakem Up'arry (IRE) 9 10 8 139 Mr Harry Redknapp Ben Pauling

Mars Harper (GB) 7 10 7 138 Pioneer Racing Gordon Elliott

Gevrey (FR) 7 10 6 137 Denis Gallagher Racing Gordon Elliott

Hereditary Rule (IRE) 8 10 5 136 CF Syndicate John McConnell

Numitor (GB) 9 10 4 135 Mr Paul G. Jacobs and Wetumpka Racing Heather Main

Celebre d'Allen (FR) 11 10 4 135 Mr Allan Stennett Philip Hobbs

Frero Banbou (FR) 8 10 4 135 Mr P. Davies Venetia Williams

Born By The Sea (IRE) 9 10 4 135 Natalie Gilligan Paul John Gilligan

Presentandcounting (IRE) 9 10 3 134 The Turner Family Donald McCain

Barnacullia (IRE) 6 10 3 134 Clearys Syndicate Michael Mulvany

Eritage (FR) 9 10 3 134 Syd Hosie Syd Hosie

Captain Tom Cat (IRE) 8 10 2 133 Deva Racing (CTC) Dr Richard Newland

Bowtogreatness (IRE) 7 10 2 133 Harry Redknapp & Sophie Pauling Ben Pauling

Percy Warner (IRE) 7 10 2 133 Mr Basil Holian Henry de Bromhead

Cooper's Cross (IRE) 8 10 2 133 Mr J. Fyffe Stuart Coltherd

Gemirande (FR) 7 10 1 132 The Bellamy Partnership Venetia Williams

Black Gerry (IRE) 8 10 1 132 Mrs M. Devine Gary Moore

Il Courra (IRE) 8 10 0 131 Mrs Mary F. Griffin C. W. J. Farrell

Knight In Dubai (IRE) 10 9 13 130 Mr & Mrs Ben Houghton Dan Skelton

Super Six (GB) 6 9 12 129 Baker, Dodd & Lakin Nigel Twiston-Davies

Glamorgan Duke (IRE) 10 9 11 128 Natalie Gilligan Paul John Gilligan

Quick Draw (IRE) 7 9 9 126 Miss A. C. Bamford Nicky Henderson

Bass Rock (FR) 7 NQ Mr Raymond Anderson Green Sandy Thomson

Hollow Games (IRE) 7 NQ Bective Stud Gordon Elliott

NOT QUALIFIED: Irascible (FR)

[Studfarm254]

I've been looking at Gordons entries for the plate, a race he's had success in.
Trying to identify Jack Kennedy or Davy Russell's ride isn't easy.

Gordon left out Ash Tree Meadow at the last minute and has only entered the following.... (unless I've missed one)

Battleoverdoyen 140 IRE (surely not a No1 ride)

Call Me Lyreen 141 IRE (hurdles 145 IRE)

Escaria Ten 151 (Heskin rides if runs ?) And no winner of the plate ever off mark of 150 or above.

Fil Dor ? (I'd say unlikely)

Gevrey 134 IRE (proper under the radar type this one so not sure)

Hollow Games 147 (needs another run asap and has an entry, But Gordon has said arkle is the plan)

Riviere Detel 149 IRE (likely for the mares)

Mars Harper 131 IRE (might not get in, and low weight jockey might be needed)


By my deduction it's either Mars Harper, Gevrey or Call Me Lyreen.
Mars Harper may not even get in, and if he did I doubt Davy would ride at such a low weight.
Gevrey looks sketchy. But is a possibility as never heard it mentioned once and ran in a flat race charity thing the other day.

So I'd side with Call Me Lyreen and have backed him and Mars Harper NRNB.

Call Me Lyreen won the big 2 mile handicap at the Dublin festival last year (138 IRE) and then had to run in the county off a mark of 152 (Basically top weight with a claimer taking 7lb)
He finished midfield 16 lengths behind state man, conceding him 11lb (minus the claim if you value that)

I'd say if he can escape with 4 or 5lb UK tax that some of his chase form gained over the summer makes him competitive.
In the 2 most valuable races he's ran in. His run just behind Visionarian conceding weight reads well, so does his running well alongside Kemboy and easy game until falling 4 out.

If he gets the best jockey the 33-1 NRNB would look a gift, you'd like to have under the tree.

Was just looking back there to see if anyone had put up lyreen as he’s only just entered my radar basically for all the reasons you’ve mentioned. He’s definitely worth a bash off 145 at those prices imo. My main concern would be he might need the run and this could have him primed for the punchestown festival that he’s won at before. But at 33/1 it would be rude not to have a nibble

[Ball Mark]

Any other Frero Banbou backers worried about him getting in?

Currently 46th on the list

If the handicapper is right the bottom rating will be 133/134 so Frero Banbou will be fine. This came from RacingTV "Road To Cheltenham". It was on TV last night but think the one hour show is on YouTube.

[Spectre]

I think he'll be fine too Mark. Venetia may press the button for the Grand Annual if she's less sure than us though. He can't hold two entries if she keeps the entry in the GA.

[Craigy14]

Do we think Venetia will run both Frero and Gemirande here?

Gemirande slightly lower in the weights and has been running well this season.

He caught my eye for his weight alone.

[Quevega]

Do we think Venetia will run both Frero and Gemirande here?

Gemirande slightly lower in the weights and has been running well this season.

He caught my eye for his weight alone.

Gemirande running tomorrow at Newbury - Getting 2 stone from the 2 at the top that love the course.

[Craigy14]

Gemirande running tomorrow at Newbury - Getting 2 stone from the 2 at the top that love the course.

Hadn’t spotted that, thanks for that.

Wonder if Venetia will be wanting to win to make sure he gets in the plate?

Currently sitting at 56.

[Quevega]

Hadn’t spotted that, thanks for that.

Wonder if Venetia will be wanting to win to make sure he gets in the plate?

Currently sitting at 56.

Might be one they don't grey out during the race ?

[Craigy14]

Might be one they don't grey out during the race ?

Possibly, 40/1 available, although I’d be wary how much they put him up for beating those 2. They are fairly decent yardsticks for handicaps.