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Fulke Walwyn KIM MUIR Challenge Cup Amateur Rider Handicap Chase
For those on ante post I take it that is classed as being 'balloted out' and should be void, as opposed to a loser?
I know it works on horses below that don't get in to a race, but is it the same as being too high for a race?
I'm not so sure CoD, we had the same discussion in here last year/two years ago and I seem to remember someone saying if you back a horse ante post terms and he/she gets rated higher than the ceiling you do your money, hope my recollection is wrong....
I've been able to cash my bets on Fakir d'Alene who looks a bit too high for my liking and replaced the lot on Smoking Gun who I think looks to be underestimated at the weights. I took the 14s nrnb although 18s is available for someone braver than I. Josh Stacey's mate put it on Twitter as I was discussing with a private group so not sure if he will contribute to a price reaction or not.
I'm not so sure CoD, we had the same discussion in here last year/two years ago and I seem to remember someone saying if you back a horse ante post terms and he/she gets rated higher than the ceiling you do your money, hope my recollection is wrong....
I make the increments as follows for the Irish:
+8 Mindsmadeup
+7 Cavalry Master, Fakir Dalene, Aint That A Shame, Everglow, Rightplacerightime
+6 Frontal Assault, Grand paradis, Glenloe
+5 Floueur, Champagne Platinum, Diol Kier
+4 Sompteux
+2 Born By The Sea, Smoking Gun, Mister Fogpatches, Discordantly, History Of Fashion
0 School Boy Hours
Just watched the December race back in full and DM clearly under strict instructions to give Mister Fogpatches course experience and nothing more. Form of that race looks pretty good too. Court Master beaten 22L has won since at Newcastle with Santini 26L back in 3rd finishing a close 2nd in the Cotswold Chase. Looking through previous winners of the KM, lots disappoint on trials day and then win this with Sunnyhillboy, Spring Heeled and The Package doing exactly that. I don't think MF was remotely disappointing, he just wasn't being ridden to win his race. The winner of that race, Commodore, could also be interesting and a little bit forgotten. Put in an excellent round of jumping from the front.
Not a race I go to heavy on and with Floueur being rated too high I'm having a little nibble and joining you with 20s still about in a place.
Not a race I go to heavy on and with Floueur being rated too high I'm having a little nibble and joining you with 20s still about in a place.
I just took the 20s (boostable) with lads for this, and the 20s (boostable) with hills for the ultima. Wherever he goes he’s had a great prep for a handicap Chase at the festival this season and is one of the better handicapped Irish horses. I personally think they could favour the ultima, as trainer has said before that Danny gets on well with him and it’s important to have him on board etc. But would fancy him for either.
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