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Fulke Walwyn KIM MUIR Challenge Cup Amateur Rider Handicap Chase

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  • Floueur did the form of his race with Frontal Assault and Grand Paradis no harm with this race in mind.

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    • Unlikely to get in here now Death Duty?

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      • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
        Unlikely to get in here now Death Duty?
        That is my thinking. Was given 142 by the BHA handicapper when 139 in Ire. Was dropped a lb after the last day but now likely to be above the 145 cut off in GB.

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        • I was still holding out for Floueur in this, and thought he'd be borderline 145 in the UK ratings before today. That extra 1-2lb he'll get for finishing 3rd today, I think means the end of this endeavour!

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          • Originally posted by On The Fringe View Post
            I was still holding out for Floueur in this, and thought he'd be borderline 145 in the UK ratings before today. That extra 1-2lb he'll get for finishing 3rd today, I think means the end of this endeavour!
            If he comes to Cheltenham my guess it's likely to be the Ultima - happy for him to finish second to the Naiad!!

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            • Death Duty new Irish ratig is 145

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              • Originally posted by Mr X View Post
                Death Duty new Irish ratig is 145
                Floueur up 1lbs to 141. That's going to be tight.

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                • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                  Floueur up 1lbs to 141. That's going to be tight.
                  When Gordon went fishing at Warwck and Kempton in January the average tax was above 4lbs so I have a feeling the British Capper is going to take great pleasure in putting him up to 146. Bloody shame as he’d have been in the mixer.

                  Edit; however, the horses the capper was less harsh on were the chasers so there could be hope.
                  Last edited by JackieMoon33; 14 February 2022, 01:33 PM.

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                  • Originally posted by JackieMoon33 View Post

                    When Gordon went fishing at Warwck and Kempton in January the average tax was above 4lbs so I have a feeling the British Capper is going to take great pleasure in putting him up to 146. Bloody shame as he’d have been in the mixer.

                    Edit; however, the horses the capper was less harsh on were the chasers so there could be hope.
                    Love to see him squeeze in but he does have other options - nicely weighted for the Ultima or revert to hurdles and rock up in the Martin Pipe again or the Coral Cup.

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                    • Added Mister Fogpatches @ 20/1 NRNB. Also stuck a free bet on at 33/1 too. Currently rated 138, so he'll go up to around 142/143 and have no problem getting in. He never seems to run badly. 4th on debut before coming 3rd in the Cork Grand National. Really good 3rd in the Troytown before a bizarre run at Cheltenham which smacked of a course experience ride. Given way much to do but went about his business professionally, handling the course fine. He was then 3rd in the Thyestes. He's raced 5 times this season, encountered nearly 70 runners and never finished outside the top 4. His experience in big fields is second to none and he's a beacon of consistency, racing 30+ times and never having fallen. I really like him here and think he'll be tipped quite a bit on the preview circuit so am getting in now.









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                      • ….Smoking Gun into 8-1 with PP, still 22-1 with Lads boost.

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                        • Thanks Eggs i've had some of that with coral.

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                          • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                            ….Smoking Gun into 8-1 with PP, still 22-1 with Lads boost.
                            Good spot.

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                            • Like the mister fogpatches shout. Can get nearly 28/1 nrnb with the willhill boost, 5 places. Thyestes form looking really strong. Was only beaten by longhouse poet who was the long term gamble of the race and Franco de port who was probably the biggest gamble on the day so id say both were extremely well handicapped. Had death duty and coko beach well behind and they franked the form at the weekend. This bet is a no brainer, anyone that says otherwise is a wonder spoofer. Cheers

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                              • What amateur would likely be riding Mister Fogpatches do we think?

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