General Chat

[FinalFurlong91]

If like me your always on the look out for reliable new accounts like me do yourself a favour and don't open a betway account

Opened account Friday morning had a few bets at Newcastle. Broke even and withdrew at about 5pm. Still not received my money.

Not had to wait this long for a withdrawal in years.

They finally sent me the money

Cowboy outfit don't bother with them imo

[Istabraq]

Agree.
Few years ago they held 9k of mine insisting I provided bank statements to confirm source pf funds, I got a lawyer onto it and they paid up.
Seems to be a filthy strategy, take your money and withhold winnings on the chance a few customers won’t go through the financial interrogation.
And yes I did contact the regulator who were worse than useless, and people wonder why I am so cynical about the integrity of the Gambling Commission….

[robith]

They finally sent me the money

Cowboy outfit don't bother with them imo

I've had professional dealings with them and they were an absolute joke

[thorne365]

Imagine waiting for over a year for a life changing sum of money and it's still hasn't been paid......

https://x.com/RInsideTracktv/status/1914387890328555719

It wasn't him that went in to collect the money apparently

[FinalFurlong91]

Agree.
Few years ago they held 9k of mine insisting I provided bank statements to confirm source pf funds, I got a lawyer onto it and they paid up.
Seems to be a filthy strategy, take your money and withhold winnings on the chance a few customers won’t go through the financial interrogation.
And yes I did contact the regulator who were worse than useless, and people wonder why I am so cynical about the integrity of the Gambling Commission….

There must be plenty of very full brown envelopes floating about in the gambling commission offices

Because they certainly do nothing for punters

First thing I'd do is say if you want a gambling licence you have to guarantee laying X amount to every customer. No restricting people to pennies.

Even if it was just guaranteeing everyone can win up to £100

[FinalFurlong91]

It wasn't him that went in to collect the money apparently

They'll be suspicious he was placing the bet for someone else then

Why if you've had a huge win would you not collect it yourself

[darlojim]

I might be missing something really obvious, but why isn't there a law in place that all checks must be done on opening an account, and after that the customer is free to place bets as and when without worrying about being paid up

[Ice]

I might be missing something really obvious, but why isn't there a law in place that all checks must be done on opening an account, and after that the customer is free to place bets as and when without worrying about being paid up

That makes far too much sense !

[FinalFurlong91]

I might be missing something really obvious, but why isn't there a law in place that all checks must be done on opening an account, and after that the customer is free to place bets as and when without worrying about being paid up

Probably because it would lower the big casino sites profits

I completely agree we should be asked either immediately or not at all

Only asking when someone tries to withdraw their money is ridiculous

I guarantee there's been numerous cases where some degen slot/roulette player had been allowed to deposit thousands then asked not just for the usual ID stuff but for proof of funds when they withdraw

[Istabraq]

First thing I'd do is say if you want a gambling licence you have to guarantee laying X amount to every customer. No restricting people to pennies.

Which is how it works in other countries, all the power rests with bookmakers who make make up their own rules safe in the knowledge the regulator will do nothing.
It’s staggering how weak the GA with bookies….

[Saxon Warrior]

Green Impact has proved a tough one to pass, in his 3 races.

The Maiden where he debuted in 2nd he made the winner battle it out right to the end, and the subsequent form in behind, for me, made it the deepest Maiden of the season.

Those that chat to me through the summer/autumn on Flat racing, away from F.J. website, know I tracked that specific Maiden race form all last autumn.

2nd Green Impact - Won Mdn and Group 2 (112 OR)
3rd Currawood - Won Mdn now (95 OR)
4th Bernard Shaw - Won Mdn, 3rd Grp 2 (109 OR)
5th Black Forza - Won Mdn and Group 2 (103 OR)
6th Apples and Bananas- Won next 3 (103 OR)
7th Ja'Marr - Won 2 times as 2yo (80 OR)
8th Rock of Cashel - Won next start (103 OR)
9th Trinity College- Won twice, 2nd in Gp3 (105 OR)

I picked up on this race form pretty quickly, after a couple had Won, and rode a few waves on it, but by no means all of them

Green Impact was beaten a Neck by Hazdann (D.Weld) on that debut, and I waited all season for Hazdann to reappear and he didn't.

He came back last weekend and close 4th to Henri Matisse (OR 116) btn 1.5L in a race with battle-hardened horses from last season only just ahead of him.

Dermot Weld was quick to say Irish 2000Gns for Hazdann was the target (end of May).

Green Impact's 2 runs after that amazing Maiden race were 2 wins

a Maiden and a 4-runner Group 2.

Both times getting first run on Aidans Delacroix and holding on well enough to win snuggly (more so in the Maiden).

That Maiden win was when Delacroix was making his debut. He's now a 116 OR and one of Aidans main Derby hopes currently having Won the Ballysax last weekend

Personally I though Delacroix would beat Green Impact when they met again after Delacroix had won him Mdn between times.

They both showed up in a 1M Group 2 with form figures of 21.

Delacroix went off 5/6F, Green Impact 5/2 in a 4 runner field

Green Impact took the lead in the straight and held on well when Delacroix came at him.

Subsequently Delacroix has won 2 Group 3's either side of a 2nd beaten only a Nose in the Group 1 Futurity Stakes at Doncaster.

That race is usually Won by Aidan, and usually ends up the best 1M Group 1 2yo race of the season.

So when you look at Green Impact you have a hardened body of work.

If Jessie decides to go to Newmarket I doubt he'd go off anywhere near 33/1.
He would go much shorter.

Her other big 2yo was Hotazhell, and he was the one who beat Delacroix a nose in the Group 1. The French classics seem to be on his agenda.

At that price you could dabble with an E/W double or two

Aidan doesn't seem to know what he's doing at Newmarkets Guineas races the last few years particularly the Colts, with even 2yo brilliance and future stars being readily turned over at HQ.

So I'd be happy to take on Twain if thats seriously the best horse he is going to run in it.

Maybe
Green Impact 33s
Doubled with a Festival horse (or 2) Each Way

for small stakes
that you want to try and get the Cheltenham one on board for the Place payout.

Kalif Du Berlais 16s Champion Chase for example.

That must be around 30/1 for the Place Double

The Win Part would be mind boggling so I'd park that thought until/unless the first part happened and focus on the Place Double potential.

Its the sort of thing I throw around in my head when thinking of putting a "now" horse with a next March horse

If we knew Green Impact was defo coming to Newmarket

Racing Post today

Jessie Harrington Stable Tour

Star quality

Green Impact
3c Wootton Bassett - Emerald Green
Marcstown Farms Sc
211-
RPR 104 OR 112

He's done very well from two to three. He worked at the Curragh after racing last Saturday week and he was excellent, so we're all systems go now for the 2,000 Guineas at Newmarket.

I definitely think he's a Guineas type.

He can quicken up off a good, fast pace and he's a big, strong horse, so he can take all the hustle and bustle of a race like the Guineas.

I think he has enough pace too – he showed enough pace to get to the front at Leopardstown and had enough to stay there. He's uncomplicated, well balanced and he'll take the preliminaries well – he'll be very relaxed, walking around the parade ring with his head on the ground. Nothing fazes him.

We're looking forward to the Guineas with him but really looking forward to stepping him up in trip as the season progresses as well.

[Eggs]

…..I’m on Green Impact for the Guineas Saxon Warrior but in light of the trainer comments, had to have a little interest at 45-1 (Lads boost) for the Derby.

[Saxon Warrior]

…..I’m on Green Impact for the Guineas Saxon Warrior but in light of the trainer comments, had to have a little interest at 45-1 (Lads boost) for the Derby.

He's beaten 14/1 Derby chance Delacroix twice, so that looks a good choice.

Stablemate, and Group 1 Futurity winner, Hotazhell, goes to the French Guineas a week later than ours, looking for softer ground.

Could mean he returns there for the French Derby.

So Jessie's split them that way by the look of it.