General Chat

[jrjr]

Emmet going for the £100K bonus, Vischio declared for Saturday. Coral probably the follow up if successful?

[ComplyOrDie]

Emmet going for the £100K bonus, Vischio declared for Saturday. Coral probably the follow up if successful?

That would be nice.

May need to win to get in to the Coral Cup. On her current rating (133), she'd only have got in to 3 of the last 12 renewals.

Maybe a TWAF price would be the play, for those not already on that like her.

[ComplyOrDie]

Regarding the Hunters Chase, I read the following "To be eligible a horse must have finished first or second twice in hunter chases, or have won two open point-to-point races, or have won one open point-to-point race and finished first or second in a hunter chase" does this have to be this season or is this historically?

[DenmanSacre]

Regarding the Hunters Chase, I read the following "To be eligible a horse must have finished first or second twice in hunter chases, or have won two open point-to-point races, or have won one open point-to-point race and finished first or second in a hunter chase" does this have to be this season or is this historically?

It's within roughly 2 and a half years of the entries deadline.

https://www.p2p.ie/news_item.php?news_id=20570

That's last year's qualification criteria as can't find the current ones but it's the same.

[Pigeon Island]

One things for sure, there is absolutely no doubt that 2 out of 5 accounts are actually long term winning accounts either, not even fucking close.
40% of people who bet, win ?? Do they fuck.

Simply closing ordinary punters down as part of the collateral damage of shutting down a very small percentage of arber's and pro's.

I lost 365 a couple of weeks ago, been my main bookmaker for 25 years, would have definitely been down over that time, even if it’s probably a bit healthier the last few years……. Started getting some weird pop up messages, contacted live chat who transferred me and got a message back saying your account is closed with immediate effect and they won’t give me any more information than that!!!! What a way to treat a customer of 25 years and still no idea what I had done to trigger it!
In the last year I’ve lost 365, boyles, mgm, W Hill, Betfred and star sports! Some just shut me down others wanted bank details which I’m not prepared to give…….. sad times

[Istabraq]

I lost 365 a couple of weeks ago, been my main bookmaker for 25 years, would have definitely been down over that time, even if it’s probably a bit healthier the last few years……. Started getting some weird pop up messages, contacted live chat who transferred me and got a message back saying your account is closed with immediate effect and they won’t give me any more information than that!!!! What a way to treat a customer of 25 years and still no idea what I had done to trigger it!
In the last year I’ve lost 365, boyles, mgm, W Hill, Betfred and star sports! Some just shut me down others wanted bank details which I’m not prepared to give…….. sad times

I'd say that's a fairly familiar story for many in here sadly.
I lost 365 10/12 years ago when I was punting cricket heavy and they were putting up some of the most wrong prices I've ever known, I wouldn't have a problem if they just restricted me for cricket but it's always an across the board restriction so racing goes too.
I've had my betfair (exchange, they haven't allowed me a sportsbook bet since Martin Kaymar win the US Open) deposits restricted this week because I've done a few quid in the last 30 days, they aren't prepared to consider my P&L in the 30 days prior to that or my P&L over the last 20+ years, which confirm the point I made earlier that it's betfair who are populating many of these markets and if you're taking these orders and winning from them they don't like it, when it's punter v punter trading they win 2% regardless, they don't want to play bookmaker on the exchange so are restricting punters who take advantage of that.
I've given up now, plenty of unregulated options...

[Lobos]

Billytherealbigred runs this weekend. If he wins does his weight go up for the Fez potentially giving him a better chance of getting in or will it stay the same as allocated on Tuesday?

[Leman14]

Billytherealbigred runs this weekend. If he wins does his weight go up for the Fez potentially giving him a better chance of getting in or will it stay the same as allocated on Tuesday?

5lb penalty if he wins (I believe)

[Lobos]

5lb penalty if he wins (I believe)

Cheers Leman

[Kevloaf]

I lost 365 a couple of weeks ago, been my main bookmaker for 25 years, would have definitely been down over that time, even if it’s probably a bit healthier the last few years……. Started getting some weird pop up messages, contacted live chat who transferred me and got a message back saying your account is closed with immediate effect and they won’t give me any more information than that!!!! What a way to treat a customer of 25 years and still no idea what I had done to trigger it!
In the last year I’ve lost 365, boyles, mgm, W Hill, Betfred and star sports! Some just shut me down others wanted bank details which I’m not prepared to give…….. sad times

That is rubbish
Do you ever go to the bookies in person?

Would you consider it?

I'd find it hard to be on here without online accounts to be honest!

[robith]

I have worked in the category both for bookies and for the safer gambling crew - I am 90% certain bookmakers are engaged in GDPR violating data sharing with PII customer data. Would end up being a massive scandal if true and if the journo class of this country weren't all privately educated toffs who sneer down their noses at us

[riccirich]

I have worked in the category both for bookies and for the safer gambling crew - I am 90% certain bookmakers are engaged in GDPR violating data sharing with PII customer data. Would end up being a massive scandal if true and if the journo class of this country weren't all privately educated toffs who sneer down their noses at us

In laymen terms this means?

I mean is there something punters should be doing that could counteract this?

[Zachx02]

In laymen terms this means?

I mean is there something punters should be doing that could counteract this?

Basically means they're using data in ways they're not allowed to or using data which they're not supposed to be holding

[Wayward Lad]

https://www.racingpost.com/news/the-...-asfxC5q9xYDr/

First time I can recall the RP property reporting on bookmaker restrictions.
I doubt there's anyone in here that hasn't been shut down/restricted, this is a bigger issue than affordability checks in my mind, the good people at the RP are not stupid but they are dependent on bookmakers for advertising revenue so no idea what's changed.
It's a shame no-one is able to accurately calculate what that equates to in lost revenue for the sport, my guess is it would then be fairly obvious why racing has a funding crisis...

Not that I agree, but the Bookmakers would argue that there isn’t any ‘lost revenue’ from restricting or closing winning accounts, as they will say that this activity would/does increase profitability ie gross win, which is what their Levy contribution to Racing is based upon.

[Istabraq]

Not that I agree, but the Bookmakers would argue that there isn’t any ‘lost revenue’ from restricting or closing winning accounts, as they will say that this activity would/does increase profitability ie gross win, which is what their Levy contribution to Racing is based upon.

Completely agree, that’s why I referred to lost income for the sport, meaning levy….