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[Yosser]

Min The Merciless just seen Josh Stacey’s tweet now as well.

Is it just me or anyone else that seen it not think it could be taken as a worry for Constitution Hill that Sir Ginos decision may be based on how he does in the Fighting Fifth?!

Unless Josh has picked that up wrong.

Haven't seen the tweet yet. Will do my daily scouring after work but in my mind, from the end of last season, I think they will let Sir Gino take his chance in the CH anyway. A light campaign. Couple of runs and then let him take his chance before chasing the season after. There is plenty of time to get him onside but I reckon connections will just say "let's have a stab at it" all the positivity around Constitution Hill won't have been for nothing. Possibly a few games being played with wording here

[Exar Essay]

My first defeat of the season. I had covered him for the Ryanair at 66/1 but I think it was worth the punt at that price

Wouldn't be unlike JP to send one of his to the Ryanair on his way to the Grand National.

[Yosser]

Wouldn't be unlike JP to send one of his to the Ryanair on his way to the Grand National.

Yeah it's certainly not ruled out. I had 2 wild swipes at the Ryanair in amongst the main protagonists. Iroko was one and Inthepocket was the other. Something just keeps saying to me that inthepocket will go into open company and with the news of Jonbon, Jeriko and likely news that Mirazur West will also go chasing in my mind strengthens that. I think I've done a good job on the JP horses. This is my planned last cheltenham so I'm swinging a lot in my favour early with a view to hammering into them closer to the time

[Craigy14]

Yea was my exact reading of it haha

Glad it wasn’t just me then.

Now I know Josh seems close to Seven Barrows with his media duties over the last year or so, so it may be some ‘mind games’ but I would be surprised it that was the case.

Just didn’t strike me as something I wanted to hear when Nicky has been gushing at how good he looks and seems in order etc (which I do know he does a lot before anyone mentions it haha). Obviously Constitution Hill (CH) will do his talking on the track and he doesn’t know what’s been said or not been said. It may just be a bit of caution from Nicky so he doesn’t end up with egg on his face if CH doesn’t come back the horse he was.

[Exar Essay]

Yeah it's certainly not ruled out. I had 2 wild swipes at the Ryanair in amongst the main protagonists. Iroko was one and Inthepocket was the other. Something just keeps saying to me that inthepocket will go into open company and with the news of Jonbon, Jeriko and likely news that Mirazur West will also go chasing in my mind strengthens that. I think I've done a good job on the JP horses. This is my planned last cheltenham so I'm swinging a lot in my favour early with a view to hammering into them closer to the time

I've not heard anything at all, but I am worried about ITP. He was due to make his comeback a couple of times last year and didn't appear. Paul Ferguson's book doesn't fill you with confidence either, simply hoping he returns to action, never mind delivering any results. Then again, I don't know how much knowledge, other than that which is readily available, Paul has of Henry's yard.

HENRY DE BROMHEAD is the dominant trainer in this year’s Leading Prospects section from Ireland and the County Waterford handler will be desperately hoping that 2023 Top Novices’ Hurdle winner Inthepocket returns to action in the autumn to further strengthen what would appear to be a deeply promising squad of novice chasers.

[Kevloaf]

Apologies if this has been explained previously but what is the argument for guests to be allowed to roam the forum? What would we lose if it were members only? Sounds like we have spies and rogue individuals here that affect the antepost market and the odds we can get so unless they add value would it be harsh to lock it down and only have vetted members?

At what point do we know it's the right moment and want to close it off forever and make it a secret society?

There are members areas 'away' from the lurkers ...

The mentality you're asking about, if we'd have said that in 2020, you'd not be here....

and so on ...



If it was content being paid for I'd be open to closing it of course, but I don't see it as a problem myself...

Thoughts welcome

[Kevloaf]

Yep.

https://www.independent.ie/sport/horse-racing/martin-brassil-has-king-george-tilt-in-his-sights-for-stable-star-fastorslow/a383156307.html

Cheers

Might be worth rolling them both up E/W with something like Teahupoo. If they both go, you would think one would win and one would get you some cheeky E/W skullduggery on the other.

Not sure about rolling them on to anything as nothing standing out, but as a stand alone idea, 6/1 and 8/1 don't look terrible to dutch

At 8/1 Fastorslow really is a very fair price if lining up, can see why YoungHustler would be so keen

I don't feel I need to rush in to backing him but that 8/1 standout price is just low hanging fruit

*5 pts e/w Fastorslow at 8/1
Couldn't help it.

[Benjy23]

Anyone bothered pricing up Iberico yet for the Arkle or Turners...

[Lobos]

Min The Merciless just seen Josh Stacey’s tweet now as well.

Is it just me or anyone else that seen it not think it could be taken as a worry for Constitution Hill that Sir Ginos decision may be based on how he does in the Fighting Fifth?!

Unless Josh has picked that up wrong.

There must be some doubt as to how he performs on his return taking into account what he went through last season regardless of how good he looks now. Sir Gino was cleary an above average juvenile last season and could well join the Champion Hurdle party.

[Lobos]

For any Iroko fans

"I can confirm Iroko will return to action on November 3rd in the Colin Palmer Chase at Carlisle over 2m4f. The season target is the Grand National & Cheltenham may not be on the agenda this time around."

https://x.com/GingerJoeRacing/status/1833849450311131459

I'd say that's a wise move by JP given all the weapons at his disposal this season.

Think they have already mentioned the Hennessy as a potential target as well, the timing of which would fit in nicely with a return at Carlisle.

[Lobos]

Wouldn't be unlike JP to send one of his to the Ryanair on his way to the Grand National.

My thoughts as well. JP has an army of classy chasers to go to war with this coming season.

[Lobos]

Little bit of money for Sir Gino on Exchange today

[Craigy14]

There must be some doubt as to how he performs on his return taking into account what he went through last season regardless of how good he looks now. Sir Gino was cleary an above average juvenile last season and could well join the Champion Hurdle party.

Doubt enough that you’re holding another horse back though? One that has the current champion hurdler in the same ownership?

Like I said could be nothing, but by all accounts last season was all precaution imo because of what was going on in his yard. He didn’t have colic etc, he was likely suffering from the same issues Nicky’s other horses were.

[HesTheOne]

Does anyone else get redirected to some scammy looking pop up web pages when trying to log in to FJ?

Kevloaf any idea? New revenue model perhaps?

[BigChaang]

Does anyone else get redirected to some scammy looking pop up web pages when trying to log in to FJ?

Kevloaf any idea? New revenue model perhaps?

Yep , I found that if you don't close that tab straight away it crashes the whole thing . got use to it now .