General Chat

[Odin]

Iv'e got no interest in Lossie at this stage with the prices. She is a horse i definitely want to come out and get beat first time out, then i will get involved in rolling her up for a place in the CH.

Assuming Ballyburn goes chasing and both Lossie and State Man are ready to run, it feels like Mullins could manipulate an easy starter for her by running her in the Morgiana and State Man in the Hatton's Grace. If State Man is as good a horse as they seem to think he is, he should beat Teahupoo over 2m4f and it would give Lossie an open Grade 1 2m Hurdle before they could be split at Xmas and then run against each other at DRF - or even avoid each other before Cheltenham entirely by sending Lossie back to the International?

[Lobos]

Iv'e got no interest in Lossie at this stage with the prices. She is a horse i definitely want to come out and get beat first time out, then i will get involved in rolling her up for a place in the CH.

She'd probably go down the MH route if she were beat first time. Her current MH price would look stupid then ! Be interesting how Mullins splits her and the current Champion..........if he does split them that is.

[Lobos]

I do think that Lossiemouth will go to the International again Odin. She was brilliant in it this year and the timing of the race was spot on for her. Imagine they'll give her a quiet time again as it really suited her last season. Two races before the CH.

[Captain Chris]

One i will be getting on the team sheet this week is Good Land. I will get him on board for both the Turners and BANC after Connell's comments about him expecting him to be a grade 1 chaser. That will do for me, he isn't backwards at coming forwards Barry in regards to his horses. It's worth a speculator. I will get Found A Fifty added to the Champion Chase squad too i think. Already got him on board for the Ryanair. Bar getting GDC involved yet, my Gold Cup team is done but i am waiting on two. Grangeclare West is in the Ryanair markets but i think he is a Gold Cup horse all day long. He jumps superbly and stays all day, and Cheveley Park are due another contender. One massive question mark around his well being though and Grey Dawning is in the thought process but plenty of time for that one. I would assume Skelton will go that way and let Protektorat try and retain his Ryanair crown.

I'd be worried about Good Land having had a year out injured and going to a festival novice chase as a 9yo. If he comes back and looks decent, then the NHC might be a better option (assuming the race lives on)? Who's in your squad for the Gold Cup? I have it between the top of the market : GDC, F2F, Fastorslow, Gerri and Grey Dawning. I've only backed the latter 2 as not keen on the prices of the rest. Hoping F2F comes out and gets beaten once or twice and then I can take a swing

[Carnage at Taunton]

Iv'e got no interest in Lossie at this stage with the prices. She is a horse i definitely want to come out and get beat first time out, then i will get involved in rolling her up for a place in the CH.

Yeah current price is awful for a horse rated so far behind the fav and current champion
Even without CH and SM I would not be taking that price

[Lobos]

Yeah current price is awful for a horse rated so far behind the fav and current champion
Even without CH and SM I would not be taking that price

Agree, the current price is ridiculously short. Bookies are taking no chances. She looks absolutely top class though and really should have an unblemished record. She does have a bit to find but she won her races last season with utter ease and with many pounds in hand. She's a huge player.

[YoungHustler]

I'd be worried about Good Land having had a year out injured and going to a festival novice chase as a 9yo. If he comes back and looks decent, then the NHC might be a better option (assuming the race lives on)? Who's in your squad for the Gold Cup? I have it between the top of the market : GDC, F2F, Fastorslow, Gerri and Grey Dawning. I've only backed the latter 2 as not keen on the prices of the rest. Hoping F2F comes out and gets beaten once or twice and then I can take a swing

Can you believe GDC will be the same age as Good Land but going for his third Gold Cup?! I'm very much relying on the Gold Cup to be an anchor for my festival as a win for either GDC, F2F, Fastorslow, Gerri, Monty's or Spillanes will net me a minimum 30pts. I personally don't think anything else is/will become good and think/hope Corbetts and Inothewayurthinkin will be aimed at the Grand National where the few freebets I get have been thrown at them along with Chianti Classico.

[Kautostar]

Can you believe GDC will be the same age as Good Land but going for his third Gold Cup?! I'm very much relying on the Gold Cup to be an anchor for my festival as a win for either GDC, F2F, Fastorslow, Gerri, Monty's or Spillanes will net me a minimum 30pts. I personally don't think anything else is/will become good and think/hope Corbetts and Inothewayurthinkin will be aimed at the Grand National where the few freebets I get have been thrown at them along with Chianti Classico.

Maybe nothing as liquidity is only small at this stage but I’ve noticed a drift on GDC over the past few days in the gold cup market on the exchange. Currently nothing up to back and F2F is fav. One to keep an eye on for those involved

[Carnage at Taunton]

Agree, the current price is ridiculously short. Bookies are taking no chances. She looks absolutely top class though and really should have an unblemished record. She does have a bit to find but she won her races last season with utter ease and with many pounds in hand. She's a huge player.

We can all have our opinions and we clearly differ in ours.
She’s not got a bit to find, it’s a lot.
CH has racked up ratings in the same manner as She has earned hers, pretty effortlessly.
Imo her only hope is if CH and SM are not in the same races as her.
I think prices should reflect that, they don’t by some way.

[Lobos]

We can all have our opinions and we clearly differ in ours.
She’s not got a bit to find, it’s a lot.
CH has racked up ratings in the same manner as She has earned hers, pretty effortlessly.
Imo her only hope is if CH and SM are not in the same races as her.
I think prices should reflect that, they don’t by some way.

We'll see. Time will tell. Her RPR in the Mares Hurdle was just 7 points below that of CH in the Xmas Hurdle so maybe not that much to find. I was Honeysuckles greatest fan but rate Lossiemouth as good as her at this stage of her career. She is a wonderful Mare.

[Carnage at Taunton]

We'll see. Time will tell. Her RPR in the Mares Hurdle was just 7 points below that of CH in the Xmas Hurdle so maybe not that much to find. I was Honeysuckles greatest fan but rate Lossiemouth as good as her at this stage of her career. She is a wonderful Mare.

Of course, time will tell as always .
She will have to be a lot better than Honeysuckle was though to trouble CH who I don’t think we’ve seen the best of yet.
I’ve said before that I’m confident CH is 180
plus, and I hope to see that confirmed at some point,but that will probably mean we need a horse capable of getting him producing that, and currently there don’t seem to be one.
I guess that’s a bit much to ask anyway.
But you never know!!

[Yosser]

I'd be worried about Good Land having had a year out injured and going to a festival novice chase as a 9yo. If he comes back and looks decent, then the NHC might be a better option (assuming the race lives on)? Who's in your squad for the Gold Cup? I have it between the top of the market : GDC, F2F, Fastorslow, Gerri and Grey Dawning. I've only backed the latter 2 as not keen on the prices of the rest. Hoping F2F comes out and gets beaten once or twice and then I can take a swing

Yeah i get the point with Good Land. I will be getting something on with a view to maybe getting some off if all doesn't go to plan. I like Connell though and might just ride it out through the season and see where he sits come March if all is well.

My Gold Cup team It's a bit of a whacky one, gone a little too far. This year's Gold Cup is last years Supreme over stacked at this point but with caveats. I am sat on Fastorslow (25/1) which i backed straight after last years GC. He was running perfectly fine and nicely positioned when JJ Slevin slipped out of the side door and have Fact To File rolled up quite nicely albeit at 4/1 but the liabilities are very small and the rewards are very good with those two. 3 others i have in the mix that sit just behind the leading group are Gerri Colombe 12/1, Monty's Star 25/1 and Il Est Francais 14/1. Gerri and Monty will be aimed at the race and both certainly are stayers as well as being good jumpers. I think Monty's Star will improve heaps this season, whether that is GC standard though is another question. I am willing to forgive Il Est Francais debacle in France because we all saw just how good he looked previously and Noel George has the race in mind if i remember rightly. I might just keep all 5 right the way up to the race and see what happens.

Inowthewayyurthinkin and Corbetts Cross have had a little bit on with a view to seeing how they are campaigned and will take action as the season progresses and.........

Stay Away Fay couldn't go unbacked at 80/1. If the Gold Cup is the target then he stays in the team regardless of what happens because at 80/1..... why not

I want to get Galopin Des Champs onside as a single but i am hoping that him and Fastorslow meet again first and he get's beat again then i will make my move. If GDC wins then i will look at the other bets i have for the race and see where i can get some back with a view to getting GDC probably rolled up. I do have GDC with Con Hill and Teahupoo in separate doubles and i might just end up rolling with that.

[MTR]

Hi lads, hope your all having good summers, I’ll be back on here more regular come October.

Just popped on here to ask about singing banjo, road to Cheltenham stated he’d passed away, but apparently it was an error from HRI? Does anybody have any solid info on this and how can a horse be recorded as dead when he isn’t?

Really hoping he’s okay as he’s my favourite horse in training!

[Eggs]

….been to Goodison today , fortunately off for a bit of sun on Wednesday.

[Lobos]

….been to Goodison today , fortunately off for a bit of sun on Wednesday.

How much longer does he have Eggs ??