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  • Originally posted by charlie View Post

    We sent men to the moon mate, keeping some ground around 0 degrees overnight shouldn't be this challenging
    Did we really though?

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    • Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post
      Some interesting comments from Danny Mullins in this
      https://twitter.com/ToteRacing/statu...31455377363257
      I listened to this. He seems to think Ile Atlantique is a 3 miler, which is interesting. Think most thought he shaped like needing to go back in trip rather than out in trip. Markets don't really support him either. But thought it was interesting.

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      • Originally posted by charlie View Post

        We sent men to the moon mate, keeping some ground around 0 degrees overnight shouldn't be this challenging
        That was a multi billion quid programme though and even then they only went because there's loads of free cheese.

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        • Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post

          That was a multi billion quid programme though and even then they only went because there's loads of free cheese.
          Who knew Wallace was a billionaire

          Learn something new every day

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          • Originally posted by Guinness Village View Post
            More free £5 bets at hills shops on machines today. For use tomorrow. I got embarrassed and left after 16 of them
            Can you explain to me like I'm 5 how to get these?

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            • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

              I listened to this. He seems to think Ile Atlantique is a 3 miler, which is interesting. Think most thought he shaped like needing to go back in trip rather than out in trip. Markets don't really support him either. But thought it was interesting.
              Danny also put forward Embassy Gardens as Willie's most suited to the NHC.

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              • Originally posted by Stormez View Post

                I think this every time it happens, it’s ridiculous.

                Don’t know if they still do but the football clubs without undersoil heating used to use heated fans under the covers. I know it’s a larger area but must be doable? Or just have the covers themselves heated? Like giant electric blankets!
                Trying to do some rough maths, the track at ascot has 4x the square meterage of a football pitch, and it's way less accessible just for management and power access. There's no way heated frost prevention would be economically viable Imo

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                • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post

                  Can you explain to me like I'm 5 how to get these?
                  On Friday, I placed an antepost bet on their machine and got a GBP5 freebet voucher to use the next day. I gave this away to a bloke who I normally talk to as there's no WH shops near my home. I don't know all the offer details but the voucher does state that only 1 voucher can be used per person only.

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                  • Stattler a mover in the XCC market. Another one to add to the list. Some race that.

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                    • HF. I just go into a hill’s shop and put a cash bet on the machine. I largely did some 50p ew lucky 15’s. The machine then offers you a free £5 bet that you accept. It’s printed out with your betting slip. Just keep going and they keep coming out. I understand that they are only available on certain days and have limited availability. Meant to be one person, but in practice doesn’t matter
                      get stuck in

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                      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                        Stattler a mover in the XCC market. Another one to add to the list. Some race that.
                        It's effectively a veterans chase these days. I wonder if it'd be better if they moved it back to a handicap.

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                        • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                          It's effectively a veterans chase these days. I wonder if it'd be better if they moved it back to a handicap.
                          Should definitely go back to being a handicap IMO

                          Conflated is a grade 1 winner, finished 3rd in a G1 this year (1.25L beaten) and will turn up with a few other similar types to pick off an easy festival win.

                          Boring really?

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                          • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                            It's effectively a veterans chase these days. I wonder if it'd be better if they moved it back to a handicap.
                            Would make it more interesting as a betting race imo
                            Im really not bothered about the race at all now.

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                            • I think this is probably all your intention of turning it back into a handicap but... You wouldn't get (m)any of the quality horses running. And the Cross Country would become a bit crap again.

                              This year's race is about as interesting as it's ever looked imo. And far more so than back when it was a handicap.

                              The likes of Delta Work, Galvin and Minella Indo wouldn't be competitive in any other festival race these days. Conflated probably the exception who could still be in prize money contention in the bigger races but he's never ran Cross Country so just adds a bit more intrigue.

                              I'm all for the race as it is now to be honest. Although I do quite enjoy a veterans chase as well

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                              • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post
                                I think this is probably all your intention of turning it back into a handicap but... You wouldn't get (m)any of the quality horses running. And the Cross Country would become a bit crap again.

                                This year's race is about as interesting as it's ever looked imo. And far more so than back when it was a handicap.

                                The likes of Delta Work, Galvin and Minella Indo wouldn't be competitive in any other festival race these days. Conflated probably the exception who could still be in prize money contention in the bigger races but he's never ran Cross Country so just adds a bit more intrigue.

                                I'm all for the race as it is now to be honest. Although I do quite enjoy a veterans chase as well
                                It's only interesting because there are 4 horses that belong in better races that are clashing .... there is absolutely no hope for all but about 6 of the entries - that can't be good long term even if this renewal does get your juices flowing.

                                On the point about them not being competitive in any other festival race, I disagree - they have handicaps over all the distances. I would so much rather see a brilliant weight carrying performance by a former Gold Cup winner than one trot about and sprint for a bit at the end.

                                If they made it a handicap again this year, you'd have all the same contenders AND give a chance to some of the others that are lower down, like all the ones that do get their head in front in the trials.... it would only add more horses who can in the mix, how can that be a bad thing?


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