General Chat

[Istabraq]

But what I think this has led to, is create some false prices and markets, much more so than normal. This is normally Ok as if we have false prices some will be wrong in a good way, but this is ante-post betting and not "day of" markets. Bookies are having our eyes, most of the time, and finding the value is harder.

This is so true.
So many horses get added to markets at the request of the the punter and as it's a one-way market bookies are under no pressure to offer nay value, in years gone by punters would wait for a horse to get priced up and if there's a error you can take advantage of it.
So a horse who has six entries and could be rated anywhere between 142 and 150 gets priced at 16/1 for e.g the M Pipe, enough people have their fivers and tenners and said bookie trims to 10/1, but with only one bookie pricing when the rest go up they'll see the market move because it's all visible and you have no chance of any value.
I've been as guilty as anyone in the past but a lack of patience creates false prices.
And as you also point out, Betfair are slow in creating ante post markets and even when they do it's generally only Betfair who populate these markets for pennies.
Could it be that aggressive account closing/restricting and affordability rubbish has pushed enough punters away from standard UK platforms that this is the new norm ?

[Rooster Booster]

This is so true.
So many horses get added to markets at the request of the the punter and as it's a one-way market bookies are under no pressure to offer nay value, in years gone by punters would wait for a horse to get priced up and if there's a error you can take advantage of it.
So a horse who has six entries and could be rated anywhere between 142 and 150 gets priced at 16/1 for e.g the M Pipe, enough people have their fivers and tenners and said bookie trims to 10/1, but with only one bookie pricing when the rest go up they'll see the market move because it's all visible and you have no chance of any value.
I've been as guilty as anyone in the past but a lack of patience creates false prices.
And as you also point out, Betfair are slow in creating ante post markets and even when they do it's generally only Betfair who populate these markets for pennies.
Could it be that aggressive account closing/restricting and affordability rubbish has pushed enough punters away from standard UK platforms that this is the new norm ?

100% agree. My least favourite thread on here is the handicap thread and the virtue I would grant on the forum If I could is impulse control. The right horses will organically find their way into the right markets. We do their fucking work for them and it’s driving me loopy (or should I say loopier).

[MTR]

I’d advise having a listen to the Nick luck podcast today if you want to hear an absolute defeatist baby of a man Henry daly talk about running blenkinsop in the ballymore gave me a good laugh.

[BagOfHammers]

Have noticed some of my betfair cash outs have increased today. They were offering my stake on most but are now giving profit on most where the horse has shortened in price. Not sure if it’s to do with the novice hurdle entries because it’s even happened to my fact to file bet. Not sure if the same on paddy power or for everyone else

[Nevertoolate]

Have noticed some of my betfair cash outs have increased today. They were offering my stake on most but are now giving profit on most where the horse has shortened in price. Not sure if it’s to do with the novice hurdle entries because it’s even happened to my fact to file bet. Not sure if the same on paddy power or for everyone else

I’d say it’s to do with pp/betfair correcting their prices across the board yesterday

[Quevega]

Just been watching Harry Findlay interview with N Luck.
I really like him, but apart from him banging on about his latest Tote scheme in Ireland.
I had to laugh when they finally got on to the affordability checks and he started blurting out about the times when he basically nearly ended it all
Muppet.
credit to Nick for pushing him on it.

[opatcho]

He' a proper character isnt he, but with that comes some annoying traits... like repeating himself LOL

[HesTheOne]

He' a proper character isnt he, but with that comes some annoying traits... like repeating himself LOL

The mans brain seams to run a million miles an hour - and so does his speech.

did you hear about the tote in Australia? Cause I fucking did about 100 times in that interview

[opatcho]

The mans brain seams to run a million miles an hour - and so does his speech.

did you hear about the tote in Australia? Cause I fucking did about 100 times in that interview

6%... 12%.... 30%.... 12%.... 10%.... farkkking hell

[Big Bucks]

Boylesports have just took away the only good thing going for them, BOG following suit with most other firms and going from the day of the race fs

[Many Clouds]

6%... 12%.... 30%.... 12%.... 10%.... farkkking hell

That was really hard to listen to at times wasn't it, but like others have said it was a good watch overall and interesting to see someone so honest about gambling and how much they love it, maybe a little bit too much like but it's something that's very rarely seen.

[FinalFurlong91]

The mans brain seams to run a million miles an hour - and so does his speech.

did you hear about the tote in Australia? Cause I fucking did about 100 times in that interview

Anyone that watched that whole interview deserves a medal

[opatcho]

Anyone that watched that whole interview deserves a medal

Prefer a few free bets instead

[Lobos]

Anyone that watched that whole interview deserves a medal

Watched Love Island instead.

Would have preferred to watch the interview.

[opatcho]

Who's ya antepost bet for Love Island, I need to double up with GDC