General Chat

[Madmoose]

Has Allmankind had a setback?

Old Roan Chase on Sunday was touted as a potential starting point for him in the RTV stable tour but no entry today: “I think we will go back for the Old Roan. I’m really happy with him this autumn as he just disappeared after Aintree and I don’t know what happened.

“The wheels properly fell off but he looks back to his bullish self now. He doesn’t owe anyone anything. If the reality was that he had given his lot then so be it but I don’t think he has.

“The plan is to give him a spin at Chepstow before going to Aintree. He is such a cool horse and we are lucky to have him as he puts his heart out there. Hopefully we have got him back to where he was.”

Since then, Skelton's At The Races tour has been released and no mention of AMK at all. Bit strange...

Looks likely, i’d imagine if back before December his focus will be the Peterborough Chase

[Eggs]

….Fergal O’Brien added to the Stable Tour thread.

[Joleg]

The Festival remaining as a 4-day event.

Common sense prevails .................................................. ...For now

[HesTheOne]

Question ?
Does anyone believe there is any value in Antepost betting anymore?

One I’ve noticed - Constitution Hill to win Champion Hurdle 2023 & 2024 at 5/1 with Paddy is something shocking to be fair.

All the risk variables at play for 2+ years for only 5s is one of the worst IMO

[Atlantic Viking]

If I had a pound for every safer gambling e-mail and notification i've been sent today i'd have about 23 pounds.

[RoadToCheltenham]

Starting to add each Gordon Elliott stable tour section to the Members Section.

[Exar Essay]

One I’ve noticed - Constitution Hill to win Champion Hurdle 2023 & 2024 at 5/1 with Paddy is something shocking to be fair.

All the risk variables at play for 2+ years for only 5s is one of the worst IMO

Especially when there have been strong hints he’ll go chasing next year.

[Ray]

Especially when there have been strong hints he’ll go chasing next year.

Have i missed anything regarding the possibility of this? I havent been keeping eyes on everything as much as id like

[Exar Essay]

Have i missed anything regarding the possibility of this? I havent been keeping eyes on everything as much as id like

That flurry of interviews with Buckley post Supreme. Kept saying he was keen to take on honeysuckle “before going chasing” etc. I’ll try and dig out the quotes this evening.

Hendo saying “he looks a chaser” now too.

I mean there’s been nothing concrete but I’d want at least 6/4 that he stays hurdling never mind winning the Churdle ‘24 (which is essentially what that request a bet offers).

[opatcho]

Starting to add each Gordon Elliott stable tour section to the Members Section.

He’s been busy hasn’t he work his updates

[Ray]

Does anyone know if samcro would be eligible for the hunters chase, hes mentioned by elliot as if that could be plausible?

[Outlaw]

Does anyone know if samcro would be eligible for the hunters chase, hes mentioned by elliot as if that could be plausible?

Nope ineligible, anyone who might of backed him get your bet voided.

[AaronLad]

Ray
A new chapter awaits one-time superstar Samcro as Gordon Elliott has revealed the dual Cheltenham Festival winner will be campaigned in point-to-points this season.

Owners Gigginstown House Stud have opted to pursue a fresh route with the popular ten-year-old, and have entrusted Elliott's travelling head girl Camilla Sharples with reigniting the veteran's fire between the flags.

After being rated 163 over hurdles and 160 over fences at his peak, Samcro now holds a chasing mark of 142 and was last seen pulling up in the Grade 3 An Riocht Chase at Killarney in May – a race he won 12 months earlier.



Samcro: the ten-time jumps winner is set to be campaigned in point-to-points this season
Patrick McCann (racingpost.com/photos)



The Ballymore Novices' Hurdle and Marsh Novices' Chase hero previously travelled well for much of the journey in this year's Grand National before weakening to finish a well-held 11th.

Elliott said: "Samcro is going point-to-pointing. He's been a favourite around the yard and Michael [O'Leary] has given him to Camilla, but if he ends up going back to run on the racecourse it will be in the colours of Gigginstown.

"He's been around the place a long time so we just said we'd do something different."



Camilla Sharples (furthest left) celebrates with the Gordon Elliott team after Samcro's win in the 2020 Marsh Novices' Chase at Cheltenham
John Grossick (racingpost.com/photos)



Sharples, a vital member of the Elliott team, has enjoyed success with comparable point-to-point ventures in recent seasons.

Having looked after admirable stayer Kruzhlinin during a previous role with Donald McCain, Sharples was gifted the Grade 3 winner by owners Paul and Clare Rooney and went on to land a whopping 13 point-to-points during the 2018-19 season, including three at Tinahely, although nothing has been announced about where Samcro might run.

Racing for Elliott while in the Sharples' colours, Kruzhlinin also claimed a Navan veterans' chase at the age of 14 in 2021, before retiring with a win over hurdles at Limerick later that year.

Mighty Stowaway was another useful track performer who collected four point-to-point wins in 2021-22 for Sharples, as well as finishing third in the 2022 Hunters' Chase at the Cheltenham Festival.

[Cheltenham Novice Chase]

Nope ineligible, anyone who might of backed him get your bet voided.

Hi Outlaw

Are you sure? I thought horses could not run only if they had won a Class 1 or 2 chase 19 months before the race or who had been placed in a Grade 1 or 2 chase 15 months before? Samcro finished 3rd at Down Royal on 17th March at Down Royal but that doesn’t appear to have been a Grade 1 or Grade 2 and his place at Navan on the 7th Nov ‘21 will be 16 months ago come the time of the Hunter Chase at the Festival.

If he’s going down the point to point route, he will also have to win two point-to-point races prior to sometime in the February prior to the Festival but he may well do that by then.

What race condition do you think he doesn’t meet?

CNC

[Ballybeen]

Think the cut off point is anything after 1st October 2021 so the Navan second to notebook was in a grade 2 ruling him ineligible.