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  • Not sure why the Irish handicapper is slow to rate some of the novice hurdlers, I know they wait with the juveniles.
    Anyhow
    Churchstonewarrior is now 134 and eric bloodaxe 135, which gives some sort of line on Ginto & Hollow Games Irish ratings (145 & 140) ish would be my guess.

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    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
      Not sure why the Irish handicapper is slow to rate some of the novice hurdlers, I know they wait with the juveniles.
      Anyhow
      Churchstonewarrior is now 134 and eric bloodaxe 135, which gives some sort of line on Ginto & Hollow Games Irish ratings (145 & 140) ish would be my guess.
      They only rate novices if they are entered in a handicap or a mark is requested by connections, I’m sure you already know that but I thought I’d chip in anyway
      Last edited by jackh50; 10 January 2022, 04:51 PM.

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      • Originally posted by Nwfb89 View Post

        I think your wrong about last year reckon almost more got beat last year than won out of the short price favs, concertista,chacun,easysland,kilcruit,envoi, zanahiry, elimay all got beat at very short odds and the likes of Appreciate it, shishkin, Honeysuckle, Bob o and monkfish won, happens most years imo some win some don't
        I thought sir gerhard and quilixios went off shorter then kilcruit and zanahir..i just think theres a chance more favs go in again this year

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        • Originally posted by Ray View Post

          I thought sir gerhard and quilixios went off shorter then kilcruit and zanahir..i just think theres a chance more favs go in again this year
          Kilcruit went off odds on if I recall correctly

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          • Originally posted by Zachx02 View Post

            Kilcruit went off odds on if I recall correctly
            Kilcruit was odds on on Zanahiyr wasn't far off either (11/8 if I recall correctly). Sir Gerhard and Quilixios were both 2nd fav.

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            • Originally posted by jackh50 View Post

              They only rate novices if they are entered in a handicap or a mark is requested by connections, I’m sure you already know that but I thought I’d chip in anyway
              makes sense, i wasn't sure, probably cos some are listed and some not.

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              • Ignore, just seen it’s Champion Hurdle entries today

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                • Originally posted by Stormez View Post
                  Any idea why 365 have suspended cash out on all bets involving Honeysuckle?
                  Think they’ve suspended all markets on the hurdles with preliminary entries today

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                  • Originally posted by Stormez View Post
                    Any idea why 365 have suspended cash out on all bets involving Honeysuckle?
                    They've suspended everything in the Champion Hurdle until the entries are officially released I believe. Nothing to worry about

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                    • Originally posted by Stormez View Post
                      Any idea why 365 have suspended cash out on all bets involving Honeysuckle?
                      Done it for all mine that may or may not have champion hurdle entries so it'll just be that given they closed today.

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                      • Thanks lads, realised almost as soon as I posted & checked the CH thread

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                        • Looking at the prize money for this new Lingfield meeting next week if there arent full fields trainers and owners can never comment about the prize money situation again

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                          • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                            Looking at the prize money for this new Lingfield meeting next week if there arent full fields trainers and owners can never comment about the prize money situation again
                            Tried to discuss this last week and nobody was interested Hopefully they are when entries come out.

                            I'm optimistic (probably stupidly) that it can make it's way as a good quality pre Cheltenham meeting in the years to come. Although needs a shake up of some races imo. I'd go more down the Cheltenham trials route for a couple personally...

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                            • Originally posted by Benjy23 View Post

                              Tried to discuss this last week and nobody was interested Hopefully they are when entries come out.

                              I'm optimistic (probably stupidly) that it can make it's way as a good quality pre Cheltenham meeting in the years to come. Although needs a shake up of some races imo. I'd go more down the Cheltenham trials route for a couple personally...

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                              The challenge is going to be how many trainers will want their Cheltenham/best horses running on Lingfield heavy. I did hear on sky racing today that there will be contingencies to switch to other tracks (Doncaster was mentioned). Apparently trainers have already questioned the suitability of the venue and I’m not that surprised. I can see it being more an opportunity for horses not ear marked for Cheltenham to pick up good prize money and that in itself makes it an interesting innovation.

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                              • Originally posted by Rooster Booster View Post

                                The challenge is going to be how many trainers will want their Cheltenham/best horses running on Lingfield heavy. I did hear on sky racing today that there will be contingencies to switch to other tracks (Doncaster was mentioned). Apparently trainers have already questioned the suitability of the venue and I’m not that surprised. I can see it being more an opportunity for horses not ear marked for Cheltenham to pick up good prize money and that in itself makes it an interesting innovation.
                                Yep. Lingfield has a reputation for heavy ground and is often called off.
                                Dont see many Cheltenham hopefuls turning up.
                                Hopefully some competitive racing will still take place though.

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