General Chat

[Istabraq]

Fuck me total nightmare. Got to admire it in a strange way though. What a man to have in your corner, does not give a fuck.

Some would argue he’s never cared about his airline passengers or staff either...

[PresentingPercy]

Fuck me total nightmare. Got to admire it in a strange way though. What a man to have in your corner, does not give a fuck.

Yep, got to admire the loyalty

[Winging The Last]

I think the Plate as we stand will have the biggest change in complexion with this news. No Farclas or Conflated. Next shortest is 16/1

[Winging The Last]

https://twitter.com/racingtv/status/1366896305268736001?s=21

Well Racing TV have confirmed the Moran horses move. No official source though

[Brooksie]

he must feel like the bailiffs have walked in. 15 years of hard work down the drain for a photo, absolute moron.

[Winging The Last]

https://twitter.com/racingtv/status/...268736001?s=21

Well Racing TV have confirmed the Moran horses move. No official source though

Apparently confirmed on RTE Sport Radio at 11 this evening

[Hurricane fly]

Anything on the storyteller?

Gordon has always been unbelievable at placing that horse to win big money. I could see that inspiring some loyalty.

On a selfish note just realised that if he doesn’t move between that and FR I don’t see myself turning a profit in the stayers!

[Supermaster]

There are many posts focussing on what punishment Gordon Elliott should receive and many are providing thorough and compelling arguments for the need to understand cultural and environmental factors when reaching that judgement. I can completely understand this, it may well be right but it is completely irrelevant to the big picture. The exact nature of his punishment is only relevant to him and those in one way or another connected to him.

whether he is treated punitively or leniently will not matter that much in the big picture of things. The world now thinks that one of the most gifted respected and successful trainers has no respect for animals. That train has left the station. It takes a lifetime to gain a reputation and a nano second to lose it. Much as we might want the world to stop and understand and wait to hear all the relevant and mitigating evidence the world will not do that. That is just for internal consumption. The outside world has already made its judgement.

As far as the world is concerned horse racing is a sport where humans gain pleasure from putting animals in life and death situations for pleasure and the images the world has now seen confirms just how clinically and dispassionately those at the vey pinnacle of the sport reconcile the sacrifice these animals are making for our pleasure.. We cannot assume the sport can continue to showcase itself this way and think the world is just going to sit back and let it happen.

the more we get locked into what punishment the trainer should get and think of that as the biggest issue at play here the more we will be guilty once again of thinking we have our own destiny in our own hands. Again I think this is short sightedness of a level so extreme it is making me think the sport will deserve everything it gets.

I haven’t seen anything that even remotely resembles a strategic plan by the sport to deal with the broader ramifications. Everybody seems to be locked into the minutiae and nobody looking outside. The few references I have seen on here to this have been references to the importance of Ed chamberlain doing a good job on Saturday. This is just touching the very edges of things.

I have seen some talk on here of losing sponsors. This is a much bigger issue than what punishment Gordon Elliott receives. How the fuck does the sport attract much needed new sponsors ? How do we think things will go now if a labour government gets in. How do we think this shit storm sets us up to defend affordability checks, how do we think our future attempts to lobby people in Westminster are going to go now and so on and on and on.

A few folks on here have said this is now about PR. Absolutely right, the sport needs to start pulling rabbits out of hats and very fucking soon and the stakes have never been higher imo.

Hmm I think horse racing will be well down the concerns of a new government of whatever party given the state we're in

[Pendil1111]

I don't think there is anything as sinister as that. GE has been caught allegedly shagging one of the workers and a member of staff and/or KH are behind the leaking of the photo and other information.

I do think whoever has released it will end up regretting this as it could lead to job losses for some of the stable staff etc and it should have been sent to the IHRB first and if a satisfactory response was not received, then release on social media.

Who is KH ?

[Madmoose]

he must feel like the bailiffs have walked in. 15 years of hard work down the drain for a photo, absolute moron.

Obviously it’s his own doings and seems a jack the lad character on what is being put about but he is a brilliant trainer nonetheless when you look on results and his career.

I hope he has a while off and slowly rebuilds himself, he will always have this hanging over him though which wil be hard to shake off so that might be the issue getting the rich owners again.

[Tangodelta]

Who is KH ?

Kate Harrington I think

[Carnage at Taunton]

Hmm I think horse racing will be well down the concerns of a new government of whatever party given the state we're in

Well we are in a state, and now its got a lot worse. I must admit i would have thought on THIS forum there would have been more thinking like Rooster Booster and the broader picture of horse racing and its future. But it seems most on here are only concerned with Elliott and cheltenham coming up.
Its like.....it will all blow over, Gordon will get a ban,fine, whatever and be back,then we can all carry on. Like we in the game have our own rules and be done with outsiders who dont like it. Well maybe thats happened in the past with other instances, but i fear in this case that approach will fail badly.

[Madmoose]

Still plenty of other horses to sort, what happens with these three for starters?

Galvin
Fakiera
The Storyteller

[Tangodelta]

The Storyteller could go to Meades yard as mrs Sloan has other horses there or he could end up at Nicky Richards

[ToniC]

Still plenty of other horses to sort, what happens with these three for starters?

Galvin
Fakiera
The Storyteller

Latest rumour is Davy going to take over the yard under David broad’s license, local Meath based trainer.