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  • Just catching up on the conversation and a few thoughts (sorry if redundant)
    1) I cannot see how the IHRB can allow Elliott to take horses to Cheltenham. The image of the sport has taken a battering in the last year and they cannot allow this to be swept under any carpet. Future funding of the sport from Governments and sponsors will be in jeopardy if they do not impose a significant penalty. They need to act quickly (not their forte) and make a decision. The IHRB's hand is clearly being forced by the BHA but, given how slowly they have acted on drug issues, other enquiries, it is difficult to blame the BHA for having no confidence they will get this done on a timely basis.

    2) As it stands there is insufficient time for the Assistant Trainer to get licensed. They could expedite but there is no precedent and it would be unfair on other new trainers who had to go through the process.

    3) Then again, to force owners to move their horses in order to compete at Cheltenham hardly seems fair and also means that the punishment to Elliott has been handed out before the investigation has concluded (although teh facts seem clear)

    4) Moving horses to another stable is not without its issues. For a start, every yard has its 'own germs' and it is often the case that newcomers ca get runny noses etc and be under par. It doesn't happen straightaway so may not be such a factor for Cheltenham (more for the other Festivals) but traveling from Ireland will compound any short term issues.

    This is just very depressing and worrying. Everyone on here is passionate about the sport and the horses. I am hopefully overreacting but am very concerned that the sport i love is at a crossroads and have very little confidence in the leadership to make any significant difference and take strong and necessary strategic decisions. Another year when we can't look forward to Cheltenham!

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    • Originally posted by Pendil View Post

      See above #2512
      It's more about the incident than Byrnes.The lack of evidence may have taken venom out of the public response, but from an animal safety point of view it was way worse. I don't want to get into a conversation about this though because we are basically just discussing degrees of bad, which sucks

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      • What a complete shit storm!!! I have so many ante post bets involving Elliot horses I feel shell shocked from the developments over the past 48 hours. At times I have laughed at how absurd this year and dismissed the seriousness of this scandal but the bitter sweet truth is that this scandal is going to hit our chances of doing well at Cheltenham hard. With Elliots horses in a state of chaos we either scramble to cover other horses and try to scramble our way out of this mess or accept we’re not going to win much and learn from it.

        This is first time I’ve attempted to do the full years antepost betting and I can’t say I’ve enjoyed it. It’s been a head wrecker and what’s happened now with Elliot is a hammer blow.

        From what I’ve read about Gordon Elliot he appears to be a nasty piece of work, a rude, arrogant and corrupt man behind the scenes. If the comments about his behaviour and attitude are true then he deserves to be crushed and ruined along with the shit bags involved with him.

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        • Supposed to be another video according to a racing feed I get on Twitter

          if true, he might as well pack up now

          This is truly heartbreaking.....I find myself fighting tears.....not least for all the stable staff who give their everything to horses and for so little reward

          Please let this be false and someone make it stop

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          • More antics from other yards too apparently.

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            • Truly awful photo but racing is gunna be a snooze fest in Ireland and Cheltenham now if they mostly go to Willie.

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              • Originally posted by Altior View Post
                More antics from other yards too apparently.
                Yep, apparently there's a video

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                • Just seen the video on twitter, I won’t link as it’s even worse than the Gordon picture. Jesus Christ

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                  • Also a video of Ryan James straddling a dead horse on the gallops of Colin bowe. Gordy was the start a shit storm is brewing I’d suggest

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                    • Yeah video is shocking and I’d imagine that would be a possible end to Rob James

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                      • omg the sick cunt

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                        • Yeah video is now in wide circulation, awful, makes Gordon look a saint.

                          Connected to Gordy too.

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                          • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
                            I've been sat at boiling point tonight.

                            Gordon is an utter disgrace in my mind.

                            As an animal lover, to see that photo is sickening. Some things just can't be forgiven and this is certainly one of those things.

                            This may sound extreme but id be giving Gordon a lifetime ban. As time goes by people will forgive and possibly forget.

                            Big no no for me.

                            Not that it would make a difference but id like to know who the horse in the photo. Let's ask the owners of that horse how they feel about it.

                            I've got no time for people like that and I sure as hell wouldnt miss him in our sport.
                            It will get far worse tomorrow, there is plenty more to come out. Disgusting.
                            i wouldnt recommend anyone watching the vids now out and doing the rounds on twitter atm.

                            I apologise for the strong replys earlier. But knew this was the case. And it wasnt to be underplayed.
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                            • Sickening. A quite awful thing to see.

                              Not ashamed to say I’ve got tears in my eyes here. This isn’t the sport I know and love.

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                              • If there is more from Gordon’s yard I would suggest it shows an immaturity to separate yourself from still trying to be one of the lads to being the boss.

                                He’s 42 so should be well passed that - a photo being 4 years old still puts him at 38! - but I imagine a racing yard is much like how people describe being a footballer etc. Where you don’t really have to grow up and be responsible like the rest of the world


                                I would also like to say I hope this stuff kind of breaks down the snobbishness I’ve experienced from “people involved in racing” who always act like they are superior to a fan/punter. 2 years ago at the Fez I was speaking to two women who were obviously from racing families and acted as if they knew better and everyone else was below them. Half way through the conversation they said they didn’t care if the animal died or not. However still knew more and cared more than the rest of us because they grew up in the environment.

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