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[Lobos]

Least likely of the 4 novice chases, surely?

Was basing it on the SR piece. He seems to think he IS the next Arkle.

[Middle_Of_March]

Imagine being faster than Annamix is your claim to fame.

With no dispect to the great ComplyOrDie , no one gives a feck about Annamix

These times relative to others on the day are over played for that exact reason. It's only relative to the very finite set of circumstances, and even then they can be taken in different ways.




I'm actually surprised at how much I haven't embraced them. Stereotypically, I'm pretty young still, embrace the stats in other sports and would use aything niche to my advantage, but I hardly ever read a time-based arguement and think it's conslusive or gives an edge. It may be because, if a horse performs well "on the clock", it's usually fucking obvious anyway to the naked eye.

Maybe it's like xG in the football. If they time reads well, you can expect a good performance.

Best example of the clockwatchers being wrong is when they claimed that Mark Johnson horse was going to be the next Frankel after bolting up on the flat a couple of years back. Those who base everything on times were genuinely suggesting he’d be the next Frankel. Based on the time of his debut.

2 weeks ago he finished tailed off in a class 3 handicap at Chelmsford at 25/1.

The fact I can’t even remember the horses name shows that he’s really proved them all wrong.

[Outlaw]

Where do we think Energumine will end up...Arkle?

Tom & Sophie Lacey always said this lad had more potential than Blackbow did after he made his debut and started getting a bit of hype. They touched on him being classy and staying well etc but who really knows with Mullins

[Kevloaf]

Best example of the clockwatchers being wrong is when they claimed that Mark Johnson horse was going to be the next Frankel after bolting up on the flat a couple of years back. Those who base everything on times were genuinely suggesting he’d be the next Frankel. Based on the time of his debut.

2 weeks ago he finished tailed off in a class 3 handicap at Chelmsford at 25/1.

The fact I can’t even remember the horses name shows that he’s really proved them all wrong.

Visinari?

I need to give it another chance to be fair... it just seems loads and loads of effort

[Outlaw]

Imagine being faster than Annamix is your claim to fame.

With no dispect to the great ComplyOrDie , no one gives a feck about Annamix

These times relative to others on the day are over played for that exact reason. It's only relative to the very finite set of circumstances, and even then they can be taken in different ways.




I'm actually surprised at how much I haven't embraced them. Stereotypically, I'm pretty young still, embrace the stats in other sports and would use aything niche to my advantage, but I hardly ever read a time-based arguement and think it's conslusive or gives an edge. It may be because, if a horse performs well "on the clock", it's usually fucking obvious anyway to the naked eye.

Maybe it's like xG in the football. If they time reads well, you can expect a good performance.

Yeah you're only comparing and sometimes just like the hcap does you can take winning distances/times too literally vs others when no race is the same.

I like his pieces & do a bit myself to add another dimension to potentially rating/judging horses. Nowhere near the level he goes &a the stride stuff whilst I'll read not something I'll ever incorporate. Pretty sure Altior must have a 3m stride pattern but I wouldn't be lining up to back him for a KG/GC like plenty were.

[Lobos]

Tom & Sophie Lacey always said this lad had more potential than Blackbow did after he made his debut and started getting a bit of hype. They touched on him being classy and staying well etc but who really knows with Mullins

I do remember Tom saying he was the best 4yo he had ever trained which is some statement!

[JackieMoon33]

I do remember Tom saying he was the best 4yo he had ever trained which is some statement!

Not when you've yet to have a festival winner

He also hyped up King Roland too and that one has not quite lived up to expectations either.

[Green Goddess]

On the time / sectionals debate, I use them a lot for flat racing, but only as another tool in the armory, I'd never make a conclusion based on times alone. Find they're less useful for jumps racing personally

[robith]

People still calling Maradonna a cheat like Lineker didn't dive to rob Cameroon in 1990 smdh

[Topofthegame2021]

Not sure how many people notice this but... on YouTube Racing podcasts or shows like UTA etc there’s a bloke in the comment section who goes by the name Wayne Harrison but has many different accounts who just spouts utter shite. Has anyone noticed him?

For those who haven’t - he belittles anyone that comments claiming that he is all knowledgeable and posts all his bets (which are all shorties).

does he

[Quevega]

Not sure how many people notice this but... on YouTube Racing podcasts or shows like UTA etc there’s a bloke in the comment section who goes by the name Wayne Harrison but has many different accounts who just spouts utter shite. Has anyone noticed him?

For those who haven’t - he belittles anyone that comments claiming that he is all knowledgeable and posts all his bets (which are all shorties).

does he

My immediate perception of Wayne is that he's a Cunt, of the highest order, the human embodiment of Coronavirus.

However, he may also be mentally unbalanced. In fact I'm certain he is.

I'm just not sure how much it affects his online behaviour of course.

[Topofthegame2021]

My immediate perception of Wayne is that he's a Cunt, of the highest order, the human embodiment of Coronavirus.

However, he may also be mentally unbalanced. In fact I'm certain he is.

I'm just not sure how much it affects his online behaviour of course.

Glad someone agrees with me then

[Outlaw]

He appears all over FB posts too, lovely individual

[Leman14]

He doesn't have a soft spot for Elegant Escape and Danny Whizzbang does he???....

[robith]

Not sure how many people notice this but... on YouTube Racing podcasts or shows like UTA etc there’s a bloke in the comment section who goes by the name Wayne Harrison but has many different accounts who just spouts utter shite. Has anyone noticed him?

For those who haven’t - he belittles anyone that comments claiming that he is all knowledgeable and posts all his bets (which are all shorties).

does he

almost apropos of nothing, but a couple of years ago the budget on ITV's stream service had a comments box where people could leave their thoughts in real time. And some guy kept writing "STICK THE LOT ON PRESENTING PERCY"

Still tickles me almost 3 years later