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The runner up had just won that valuable handicap at the Galway festival, decent horse with big race experience…
Question for you (and anyone else) - how much value do you assign to two runner races irrespective of the opposition? I haven't seen sz's yet as I'm currently on holiday, but I'm thinking back to jonbon Vs Calico as well and I am expecting there will be several more in the UK this winter based on current field size trends.
For me, I tend to write them off as fairly unreliable evidence of anything other than wellbeing just because they are normally so different to what the horse will experience in other races (particularly big handicaps/graded races).
Question for you (and anyone else) - how much value do you assign to two runner races irrespective of the opposition? I haven't seen sz's yet as I'm currently on holiday, but I'm thinking back to jonbon Vs Calico as well and I am expecting there will be several more in the UK this winter based on current field size trends.
For me, I tend to write them off as fairly unreliable evidence of anything other than wellbeing just because they are normally so different to what the horse will experience in other races (particularly big handicaps/graded races).
Yeah I do agree.
For me it’s how the race is run, they seemed to go an OK gallop, Ziggy breezed upsides 3 out and we t clear fairly easily though, and this is always the danger, the runner up knew he was beat and was eased.
That said, they were racing to between the last 2 fences, so Ziggy won the race from 3rd last to approaching last.
I’ll ignore RPRs and winning distance, but visually it looked a good performance against a good yardstick…
There's a listed mares bumper at Gowran at the end of September. Always a target for Willie.
Take that in and then go Hurdling. She'll be 6 turn of year so that'll work. The Mares he's ran in the Cheltenham Bumper have all come out later than AV so I'd think a Novice Hurdling campaign after that listed race would be in their minds. She does look very good. Built like her mother as well.
Pretty sure you can't run in the bumper as a 6 y/o starting next year anyway so has no choice but to go hurdling if they want to run her at the festival
Pretty sure you can't run in the bumper as a 6 y/o starting next year anyway so has no choice but to go hurdling if they want to run her at the festival
Plus if she ran in the listed race like Augusta Kate did then she couldn't have another Bumper run for 6 months until the Cheltenham Festival itself . Just wouldn't work. She looks certain to go Hurdling. Very sensible getting her out early for racecourse experience I'd say.
The following changes will be introduced for the start of the 2023/24 season:
1. A maximum of three runs permitted in National Hunt Flat races.
The only exceptions will be where:
the fourth run is in the Grade 1 Champion Bumper at Cheltenham, or the Grade 2 NHF at Aintree. Where the fourth run is in the Grade 1 Champion Bumper at Cheltenham, a further fifth run is permitted in the Grade 2 NHF at Aintree.
In the case of fillies and mares, a fourth run is permitted in either the Listed Mares’ NHF at Sandown in March or the Grade 2 Mares’ NHF race at Aintree. If the fourth run is in the Listed Mares’ NHF at Sandown in March then a further fifth run is permitted in the Grade 2 Mares’ NHF race at Aintree.
2. 6-year-olds no longer permitted to run in National Hunt Flat races after the final day of the Jump season (in any given Season commencing from the 2023/24 Season).
Pretty sure you can't run in the bumper as a 6 y/o starting next year anyway so has no choice but to go hurdling if they want to run her at the festival
Wouldn't surprise me if she was to stay in bumpers, that the mares grade 2 at the DRF be the ultimate aim for her
Had a fairly quiet “off season” added some talking horses but not too many as yet. Managed to stick to my plan of not betting much over the flat season, royal ascot and goodwood really all, hit the post a few times.
Mark Howard had a little snippet in Irish Field on Paul Nicholls today.
“The stable are particularly strong in the novice chase department with Hermes Allen, Knappers Hill, Stay Away Fay and Tahmuras all set to go over tences.
Paul is already eyeing the Grade 2 Rising Stars Novices' Chase at Wincanton (November 11th) for Knappers Hill provided everything goes to plan on his
chasing bow at Chepstow (October 14th) a month earlier. Grade 1-winning novice hurdler Hermes Allen, who has undergone wind surgery, will almost certainly start over the intermediate trip but don't be surprised if he is accompanying Bravemansgame to Kempton on St Stephen's Day, for the Grade 1 Kauto Star Novices' Chase. In terms of one for the future, owner Max McNeill is involved in the once raced Quebecois who was acquired for a hefty ?320,000 at the Cheltenham Festival sale in March. The former Sean Doyle-trained four-year- old was beaten a length in a point-to-point
at Castlelands 11 days earlier. With Harry Cobden in the saddle, he is one to watch out for in a bumper.”
Mark Howard had a little snippet in Irish Field on Paul Nicholls today.
“The stable are particularly strong in the novice chase department with Hermes Allen, Knappers Hill, Stay Away Fay and Tahmuras all set to go over tences.
Paul is already eyeing the Grade 2 Rising Stars Novices' Chase at Wincanton (November 11th) for Knappers Hill provided everything goes to plan on his
chasing bow at Chepstow (October 14th) a month earlier. Grade 1-winning novice hurdler Hermes Allen, who has undergone wind surgery, will almost certainly start over the intermediate trip but don't be surprised if he is accompanying Bravemansgame to Kempton on St Stephen's Day, for the Grade 1 Kauto Star Novices' Chase. In terms of one for the future, owner Max McNeill is involved in the once raced Quebecois who was acquired for a hefty ?320,000 at the Cheltenham Festival sale in March. The former Sean Doyle-trained four-year- old was beaten a length in a point-to-point
at Castlelands 11 days earlier. With Harry Cobden in the saddle, he is one to watch out for in a bumper.”
Anyone know when his book was roughly delivered last year?
I E-Mailed Mark this week and received this reply :
Thank you for your email. I have attached full details of the new edition of One Jump Ahead which is due to be published in mid September. I am updating my website shortly – you will be able to pre order a copy on there.
The following changes will be introduced for the start of the 2023/24 season:
1. A maximum of three runs permitted in National Hunt Flat races.
The only exceptions will be where:
the fourth run is in the Grade 1 Champion Bumper at Cheltenham, or the Grade 2 NHF at Aintree. Where the fourth run is in the Grade 1 Champion Bumper at Cheltenham, a further fifth run is permitted in the Grade 2 NHF at Aintree.
In the case of fillies and mares, a fourth run is permitted in either the Listed Mares’ NHF at Sandown in March or the Grade 2 Mares’ NHF race at Aintree. If the fourth run is in the Listed Mares’ NHF at Sandown in March then a further fifth run is permitted in the Grade 2 Mares’ NHF race at Aintree.
2. 6-year-olds no longer permitted to run in National Hunt Flat races after the final day of the Jump season (in any given Season commencing from the 2023/24 Season).
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