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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
    Anyone backing the ex French 3yo Filly Lossiemouth, particularly TWAR, be aware that there is a very good 141 rated Gelding trained by Tom Lacey that goes by the same name. Would be very annoying to be caught out backing the "wrong' horse !!
    Good Call Lobos , I thought it was the same horse , changed trainer . !!.

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    • How do you know which one your backing?

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      • Originally posted by BigChaang View Post

        So you wouldn't recommend a 5 gallon in your own container for a sunday afternoon take out then Somer ! ??.
        I would if you bought his cheese as well. I dont mind the odd pint but its always better to give as a gift to some silly fooker who thinks he knows best

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        • Originally posted by somer1 View Post
          How do you know which one your backing?
          Yea, think the naming confusion could potentially work in your favour to be honest.

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
            Anyone backing the ex French 3yo Filly Lossiemouth, particularly TWAR, be aware that there is a very good 141 rated Gelding trained by Tom Lacey that goes by the same name. Would be very annoying to be caught out backing the "wrong' horse !!
            William Hill have her listed as Lossiemouth (FR) so you know you'll be backing the right one, as the other is (GB)

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            • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

              William Hill have her listed as Lossiemouth (FR) so you know you'll be backing the right one, as the other is (GB)
              Unless of course you wanted to back Lacey's horse
              At least WH are sensible

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              • Question........

                Who was the last Supreme Novices winner to win the following years Champion Hurdle??

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                • How many of the really good ones have tried?

                  Most of them win the following years arkle and don't even contest the champion hurdle these days

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                  • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
                    How many of the really good ones have tried?

                    Most of them win the following years arkle and don't even contest the champion hurdle these days
                    Is there a reason for that though ?

                    It's a serious question. I don't know. It's driving me mad and I've been punting for 40 years. Can't think of one. Plenty have obviously tried.

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                      Question........

                      Who was the last Supreme Novices winner to win the following years Champion Hurdle??
                      To coincide with this, who was the last novice hurdler to be rated 170 and hit an RPR of 172 after just three hurdles runs?

                      I'll be surprised if there is another one.

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                      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                        To coincide with this, who was the last novice hurdler to be rated 170 and hit an RPR of 172 after just three hurdles runs?

                        I'll be surprised if there is another one.
                        No idea. Get the answer to mine first ......... where's Saxon when you need him

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                        • Right, I've gone through the list of Supreme winners from Wikipedia and I think it may have been Bula in 1970. Tell me I'm wrong please. 52 years ago ???!!!

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                          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
                            Question........

                            Who was the last Supreme Novices winner to win the following years Champion Hurdle??
                            Hors La Loi did the double, though not in consecutive years. Think Buveur d’Air must’ve been the last winner to run in the previous years Supreme, as neither of the mares did?

                            I know neither are the answer to your question, but are the closest I could think of, and I wasn’t around to remember back to Bula’s days!

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                            • Originally posted by Stormez View Post

                              Hors La Loi did the double, though not in consecutive years. Think Buveur d’Air must’ve been the last winner to run in the previous years Supreme, as neither of the mares did?

                              I know neither are the answer to your question, but are the closest I could think of, and I wasn’t around to remember back to Bula’s days!
                              Brave Inca also did the double but won the CH 2 years after winning the Supreme.

                              None had the rating handed out to Constitution Hill though as COD said but I'm not sure if those ratings have changed over the years ??

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                              • There’s been an obsession with getting the good ones over a fence as early as possible for a while now, I’d be sure if Honeysuckle was a gelding she/he/it would never have won more than one champion hurdle.
                                The exploits of the Istabraqs, See You Then’s, Bula’s Sea Pigeon’s and Persian War’s are unlikely to be repeated…

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