General Chat

[Odin]

Do the weekly free bets off Sky have an expiry date or not?

No expiry date on Sky, 7 days on Paddy as things stand. Sky used to be 7 days, but it changed a year or two ago.

[Stormez]

No expiry date on Sky, 7 days on Paddy as things stand. Sky used to be 7 days, but it changed a year or two ago.

Handy to know!

[Exar Essay]

Cromwell says Vanillier heading to the Champion Stayers at Punchestown. Seems sensible given his poor season over fences. Given what he did in the AB in ‘21, I think the 20/1 with PP worth a dart. As much as I love the nutcase, can’t be having Klassical dream at a shade over evens.

[Exar Essay]

Shanbally Kid, who beat Polo Lounge and Top Speed in a bumper last week, has gone to Willie according to Michael Looby. Looked impressive too.

Looked a Ballymore type to my eye.

[Eggs]

….interest in Punchestown Festival building up. For information, I’ve started a thread on the subject in the NH Forum.

[Ice]

….interest in Punchestown Festival building up. For information, I’ve started a thread on the subject in the NH Forum.

I'm hoping there will be some nice win today and festival 2023 bets upcoming but not holding my breath !

[Eggs]

I'm hoping there will be some nice win today and festival 2023 bets upcoming but not holding my breath !

….fingers crossed. I’m reminded of this time last year;

40-1 GDC & a/r
66-1 GDC/RSA

Last fence fall in the Turners meant neither came to fruition, but interesting if anything similar is offered this time. I posted one earlier so they are appearing..

[Ice]

….fingers crossed. I’m reminded of this time last year;

40-1 GDC & a/r
66-1 GDC/RSA

Last fence fall in the Turners meant neither came to fruition, but interesting if anything similar is offered this time. I posted one earlier so they are appearing..

Even though neither bet came in i would still have been happy if i had been on either of those !

[FinalFurlong91]

Even though neither bet came in i would still have been happy if i had been on either of those !

I was on the 40/1 and was still happy he didn't win the turner's due to multiples involving Bob hahaha

[OffTheBridle]

Willie Mullins has 3 horses, at the moment, that ran at this years festival and will retain their novice status for next year's Fez. This couldn't be common for him to have 3??
Is the market overlooking Gaelic Warrior and Il etait temps? It was GW first run for Willie and it was at cheltenham so it's actually a great scenario for him as a trainer. He knows their flaws, il etait temps pulled for majority of the race and Gaelic warrior jumped right for majority of his race. Willie to iron out their flaws in 12 months??
If Gaelic Warrior had not got such a low rating from the handicapper, would Willie have ran him over hurdles this year? He could have ran him in couple of bumpers like mercurey and if he won them he would be single digit price for next year's supreme, even at this stage. Nobody would know he jumps out to the right, but now we do and the best trainer knows he jumps right

[darlojim]

Willie Mullins has 3 horses, at the moment, that ran at this years festival and will retain their novice status for next year's Fez. This couldn't be common for him to have 3??
Is the market overlooking Gaelic Warrior and Il etait temps? It was GW first run for Willie and it was at cheltenham so it's actually a great scenario for him as a trainer. He knows their flaws, il etait temps pulled for majority of the race and Gaelic warrior jumped right for majority of his race. Willie to iron out their flaws in 12 months??
If Gaelic Warrior had not got such a low rating from the handicapper, would Willie have ran him over hurdles this year? He could have ran him in couple of bumpers like mercurey and if he won them he would be single digit price for next year's supreme, even at this stage. Nobody would know he jumps out to the right, but now we do and the best trainer knows he jumps right

For me I don't think these horses will play a part in next years novice races. Gaelic Warrior's jumping out right is a big worry and he kind of reminds me of Getabird, he was great until coming over to Cheltenham and then was exclusively aimed at RH tracks only.

Il Etait Temps was so keen it was impossible for the horse to win the Triumph after the way it went through the race, could this be another Ha d'or who was also far too free on his first season but then didn't really learn the following year? Definitely would be a watching brief with regards to both horses.

[DenmanSacre]

Willie Mullins has 3 horses, at the moment, that ran at this years festival and will retain their novice status for next year's Fez. This couldn't be common for him to have 3??
Is the market overlooking Gaelic Warrior and Il etait temps? It was GW first run for Willie and it was at cheltenham so it's actually a great scenario for him as a trainer. He knows their flaws, il etait temps pulled for majority of the race and Gaelic warrior jumped right for majority of his race. Willie to iron out their flaws in 12 months??
If Gaelic Warrior had not got such a low rating from the handicapper, would Willie have ran him over hurdles this year? He could have ran him in couple of bumpers like mercurey and if he won them he would be single digit price for next year's supreme, even at this stage. Nobody would know he jumps out to the right, but now we do and the best trainer knows he jumps right

For Il Etait Temps, I just see Ha D'Or version 2 for a similar horse of Willies last year, though IET does look to have a bit more talent. Vibes were pretty strong when he made his debut at Xmas behind Zanahiyr and he pulled like mad. Still a novice this season and Willie still hasn't got him 100% settled though he has some solid novice form.

Gaelic Warrior had the run of the race and still couldn't win at Cheltenham. It was Townend who was leading the pack throughout and he got done by a speedier horse. I think he'll need to improve a lot to reach the normal standard of a Ballymore winner and I wouldn't even factor him into my thinking for that race unless he shows much improved form in the grade 1 at Punchestown this week.

If Gaelic Warrior hadn't got such a low rating, I'd suspect he would have been left until next year or followed the path of Il Etait Temps where it would have been win a grade 1 and the loss of the novice tag next year doesn't matter or running well in defeat gives him good experience for a novice campaign next year.

[DenmanSacre]

For me I don't think these horses will play a part in next years novice races. Gaelic Warrior's jumping out right is a big worry and he kind of reminds me of Getabird, he was great until coming over to Cheltenham and then was exclusively aimed at RH tracks only.

Il Etait Temps was so keen it was impossible for the horse to win the Triumph after the way it went through the race, could this be another Ha d'or who was also far too free on his first season but then didn't really learn the following year? Definitely would be a watching brief with regards to both horses.

Was typing my reply before seeing yours. Glad to see someone else bringing up Ha D'or and not being overly keen on either horse.

[Zachx02]

Willie has one in the 2:50 at Auteuil tomorrow with Rachael on board it's a 3 year old hurdle race, if it wins will it still be able to race in the Triumph next year if good enough?

[Exar Essay]

Willie has one in the 2:50 at Auteuil tomorrow with Rachael on board it's a 3 year old hurdle race, if it wins will it still be able to race in the Triumph next year if good enough?

She will. But the rumour is that if she wins she might be for the sales.