General Chat

[Kevloaf]

He seemed slightly optimistic today

"I don't know if I will be riding Envoi Allen or not, but hopefully I will. I won't be getting my hopes up just yet. I've only ridden him once at home as Keith [Donoghue] does all the work on him. He's some horse.

That'll be interesting to see actually. Gordon would be bold in not using Keith if he knows him so well?

However, nobody can argue Jack Kennedy isn't a better jockey already and on the path to being a Champion...



On the one hand, going with Keith might be a safe option, thinking the horse is so good... if he reaches to Jack, is he scared?

Pointless conjecture on my part

[Pendil]

What a race on Saturday if the top 5 are declared. Great to see after handicap performances by Rouge Vif and Frodon

[FaugheenTheMachine]

Kennedy declared on Envoi Allen on Friday

[Ballyfitz]

Just got another email from Racebets about their closure which I didn’t pay much attention to as I haven’t been able to use them for ages.

One thing that did catch my eye though was that any outstanding bets not settled by 21 October will be settled as winners - good result if anyone had anything ante-post with them!

[riccirich]

Anyone else having a problem logging in to william hill?

[Istabraq]

Just got another email from Racebets about their closure which I didn’t pay much attention to as I haven’t been able to use them for ages.

One thing that did catch my eye though was that any outstanding bets not settled by 21 October will be settled as winners - good result if anyone had anything ante-post with them!

That can’t be right Ballyfitz.
imagine having a dozen life changer yankees...

[Quevega]

Longclaw & Duffle Coat both running tomorrow at Wetherby.
Interesting bit of placing by Elliott that.
Smacks of giving the handicapper a look.

[Lobos]

Longclaw & Duffle Coat both running tomorrow at Wetherby.
Interesting bit of placing by Elliott that.
Smacks of giving the handicapper a look.

They do look prime Fred Winter candidates don't they.

[Priceiskey]

The Getaway kids seem to despise the Cheltenham undulations…
I briefly mentioned this on my Twitter account last week but it’s well worth exploring further.

.....the Getaway kids (sounds like a crap 80’s band/TV show!) and their Cheltenham record…

There were three runners for the sire at Prestbury Park last weekend…GETAWAY TRUMP – RETURN TICKET – ONE TRUE KING…and none of them won, taking the record of the Getaway kids at Cheltenham to…

2/57 | 3.5% S/R | -£33.24 BFLSP – W&P 11/57 | 19% S/R

72% below expectation

Doesn’t matter how you shake it up, those are poor figures and the losses are starting to pile up.

In fairness to one of the weekend runners – ONE TRUE KING – he did run a fine race in second, but when it came to a scrap up the hill he was easily brushed aside.

And I think that’s the issue; they just don’t appreciate getting down and dirty, especially when there’s a beast of a hill to tackle at the end as well.

It’s not just the Cheltenham hill they don’t seem to fancy either, it seems they ‘struggle’ on most Undulating/Very Undulating tracks that have an uphill finish (Carlisle, Cheltenham, Leicester, Plumpton, the now departed Towcester…)…

10/124 | 8% S/R | -£72.74 BFLSP – W&P 31/124 | 25% S/R

45% below expectation

To be fair, I don’t blame them for ‘folding’ when it comes to a punishing uphill slog at the end of their races, I’d be the same!

Whether this ‘trend’ will continue is never easy to say but it’s certainly something I’ve got firmly on my radar and will be keeping a close watch on throughout this season.

Be wary of backing those Getaway kids over the Cheltenham undulations…

That would of include the likes of.....
The Big Getaway
The Big Breakaway
Jetaway Joey
Coconut Splash
just to name a few.

[Kevloaf]

Longclaw & Duffle Coat both running tomorrow at Wetherby.
Interesting bit of placing by Elliott that.
Smacks of giving the handicapper a look.

Yeah, always worth noting. Good spot Q - one for the handicap watch thread though

The Getaway kids seem to despise the Cheltenham undulations…
I briefly mentioned this on my Twitter account last week but it’s well worth exploring further.

.....the Getaway kids (sounds like a crap 80’s band/TV show!) and their Cheltenham record…

There were three runners for the sire at Prestbury Park last weekend…GETAWAY TRUMP – RETURN TICKET – ONE TRUE KING…and none of them won, taking the record of the Getaway kids at Cheltenham to…

2/57 | 3.5% S/R | -£33.24 BFLSP – W&P 11/57 | 19% S/R

72% below expectation

Doesn’t matter how you shake it up, those are poor figures and the losses are starting to pile up.

In fairness to one of the weekend runners – ONE TRUE KING – he did run a fine race in second, but when it came to a scrap up the hill he was easily brushed aside.

And I think that’s the issue; they just don’t appreciate getting down and dirty, especially when there’s a beast of a hill to tackle at the end as well.

It’s not just the Cheltenham hill they don’t seem to fancy either, it seems they ‘struggle’ on most Undulating/Very Undulating tracks that have an uphill finish (Carlisle, Cheltenham, Leicester, Plumpton, the now departed Towcester…)…

10/124 | 8% S/R | -£72.74 BFLSP – W&P 31/124 | 25% S/R

45% below expectation

To be fair, I don’t blame them for ‘folding’ when it comes to a punishing uphill slog at the end of their races, I’d be the same!

Whether this ‘trend’ will continue is never easy to say but it’s certainly something I’ve got firmly on my radar and will be keeping a close watch on throughout this season.

Be wary of backing those Getaway kids over the Cheltenham undulations…

That would of include the likes of.....
The Big Getaway
The Big Breakaway
Jetaway Joey
Coconut Splash
just to name a few.

Nice plug.... what's the twitter handle PIK? Feel free to link it


Interesting angle. These things would not make it on to my radar, and when they do I can't see the logic to them so find them easy to ignore... but I could (and often am) be wrong!

[Priceiskey]

[Priceiskey]

If the above link doesn’t work it’s Ben Aitken on Twitter. (Narrowing the field)

[ComplyOrDie]

Mentioned Getaways at Cheltenham last season in a thread. No idea which one though which is bloody helpful I know. Will try to find it. But the long and short of it was that it came to pretty much the same concensus.

[Quevega]

Paddy's have paid out on the Novice Handicap Chase being scrubbed. For anyone who was waiting on this.

[Saxon Warrior]

Paddy's have paid out on the Novice Handicap Chase being scrubbed. For anyone who was waiting on this.

Cheers Q.