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  • Thurles entries are out for the rescheduled meeting on Monday.

    Im most interested in the Rated Novice Hurdle over 2M4F at 3.35pm.

    Similar decs seem to be confirmed as originally, with

    Crosshill 11st 12lb (135)
    Capodanno 11st 5lb (No rating)
    Broomfields Jeremy 11st 4lb (127)
    Slige Dala 11st 3lb (126)
    Capilano Bridge 11st 2lb (125)
    Castlebrook 11st 2lb (No rating)
    Carrolls Cottage 11st 0lb (No rating)
    Velvet Elvis 11st 0lb (No rating)

    On the face of it this isnt a handicap, with half of them having no irish handicap rating.

    The other half appear to be weighted as per their handicap marks though (maybe I'm wrong), which implies that Capodanno has an unofficial mark of 128?

    Does anyone with knowledge of Irish Rated Novice Hurdles know how the weights are chosen for those without an official rating?

    UPDATE:
    Looking into this it seems that the Irish Handicapper may not give a horse a rating until it is (a) entered in a handicap or (b) is rated above 135.
    I say may not, because I havent seen a clearer definition of this yet, but one may exist.

    Rated Novice Hurdles in Ireland seem to allow horses to run off their Irish handicap marks against horses with no irish rating.
    This must mean that the Irish handicapper has determined a rating purely for giving a horse a weight the Rated Novice Hurdle but not confirmed it officially yet.

    In the case of Mondays race, this must mean that they currently rate Capodanno at 128, but there is no official rating.
    This probably means he would struggle get into a Festival handicap unless he won on Monday.


    If that right, what a rubbish system this lot employ, just give them official ratings if they enter a Rated Novice Hurdle or Chase (simples).

    No wonder the authorities make such a balls-up of stewarding, race distances, drug testing, cctv etc.
    Last edited by Saxon Warrior; 13 February 2021, 11:35 AM.
    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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    • You can find the conditions for Mondays rated hurdle in the HRI site. Under the Race Planning heading

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      • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
        Thurles entries are out for the rescheduled meeting on Monday.

        Im most interested in the Rated Novice Hurdle over 2M4F at 3.35pm.

        Similar decs seem to be confirmed as originally, with

        Crosshill 11st 12lb (135)
        Capodanno 11st 5lb (No rating)
        Broomfields Jeremy 11st 4lb (127)
        Slige Dala 11st 3lb (126)
        Capilano Bridge 11st 2lb (125)
        Castlebrook 11st 2lb (No rating)
        Carrolls Cottage 11st 0lb (No rating)
        Velvet Elvis 11st 0lb (No rating)

        On the face of it this isnt a handicap, with half of them having no irish handicap rating.

        The other half appear to be weighted as per their handicap marks though (maybe I'm wrong), which implies that Capodanno has an unofficial mark of 128?

        Does anyone with knowledge of Irish Rated Novice Hurdles know how the weights are chosen for those without an official rating?

        UPDATE:
        Looking into this it seems that the Irish Handicapper may not give a horse a rating until it is (a) entered in a handicap or (b) is rated above 135.
        I say may not, because I havent seen a clearer definition of this yet, but one may exist.

        Rated Novice Hurdles in Ireland seem to allow horses to run off their Irish handicap marks against horses with no irish rating.
        This must mean that the Irish handicapper has determined a rating purely for giving a horse a weight the Rated Novice Hurdle but not confirmed it officially yet.

        In the case of Mondays race, this must mean that they currently rate Capodanno at 128, but there is no official rating.
        This probably means he would struggle get into a Festival handicap unless he won on Monday.


        If that right, what a rubbish system this lot employ, just give them official ratings if they enter a Rated Novice Hurdle or Chase (simples).

        No wonder the authorities make such a balls-up of stewarding, race distances, drug testing, cctv etc.
        A novice hurdle for five years old and upwards which at entry are rated 125 or less (also open to horses which at entry are rated 126-135)

        About 2 miles 4 furlongs 98 yards Maximum Runners: 13 €128 to enter, €32 extra if declared to run

        Weights: 5-y-o ............................................ 11st
        6-y-o and up ....................................... 11st 2lbs
        Penalties - Performances before 4th February - for every 1lb above the rating of 125 ..........................................1lb extra
        On or after 4th February - for each hurdle race won ................. 5lb extra

        Horses that have not run three times over hurdles and/or do not have a published handicap hurdle rating may enter and run at the discretion of the handicapper provided their performances are rated 135 or less

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        • I put this on the "win today and at the festival" thread, but in case anyone not seen it, the last two winners of this race went on to win the Boodles at the festival.
          The owls are not what they seem

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          • In case not seen this on the Racing Post website, its worth a look at the attached video (from 2014) as quite amusing.

            For those who are still puzzled by the Cross Country Race at the Festival then that looks straight forward compared with this.

            I recommend you watch it carefully and until the end. In particular keep an eye out for the Red Arrows moment!

            Watch "Prix des B?n?voles - Castera Verduzan - 07/07/14" on YouTube

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            • Originally posted by Diamond Geezer View Post
              I put this on the "win today and at the festival" thread, but in case anyone not seen it, the last two winners of this race went on to win the Boodles at the festival.
              Took some 25s e/w as they crossed the line based on seeing this so thanks

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              • Just watching Luck on Sunday, and Dave Russell basically just said to Bruce Millington he would not answer any questions from him, only Luck. Does anyone know what the history is there?

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                • Originally posted by Magpie View Post
                  Just watching Luck on Sunday, and Dave Russell basically just said to Bruce Millington he would not answer any questions from him, only Luck. Does anyone know what the history is there?

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                  • Originally posted by Magpie View Post
                    Just watching Luck on Sunday, and Dave Russell basically just said to Bruce Millington he would not answer any questions from him, only Luck. Does anyone know what the history is there?
                    https://www.racingpost.com/sport/ima...drag-on/297904

                    Edit: I've been beaten to it by Presenting Percy, not for the first time...

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                    • Cheers lads, completely forgot about that incident.

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                      • Anyone else unable to watch race replays on B365's racing archive yesterday and today?

                        Don't know what the problem is - my end or theirs.

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                        • Originally posted by nortonscoin200 View Post
                          Anyone else unable to watch race replays on B365's racing archive yesterday and today?

                          Don't know what the problem is - my end or theirs.
                          Just tried to see if I could see a Naas race from yesterday, yeh it’s not working NC200

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                          • Originally posted by Magpie View Post

                            Just tried to see if I could see a Naas race from yesterday, yeh it’s not working NC200
                            cheers pal, i'm on the case....speaking to b365 now.

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                            • Originally posted by nortonscoin200 View Post

                              cheers pal, i'm on the case....speaking to b365 now.
                              Just Google race replays

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                              • Prolific Lambourn trainer Archie Watson will not have any runners for at least the next two weeks after a test among one of his string revealed the... Read More


                                FFS

                                where's MTR ​​​​​​​

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