General Chat

[Istabraq]

Most Ireland has ever won is 19. Least numbers of winners was 5 back in 2012 (since 2005). If there was an overs/unders market I think it would be set at 19.5 and I’d favour overs.

Unless something happens linked to Covid the 1/3 on Ireland to win the Prestbury Cup should come in comfortably.

I haven’t done the maths but I would have thought 1/3 equates to about 17-17.5 predicted winners so if you want to get with Ireland I think you’ll get better than 19.5...

[Skysthelimit]

I haven’t done the maths but I would have thought 1/3 equates to about 17-17.5 predicted winners so if you want to get with Ireland I think you’ll get better than 19.5...

I haven’t done the maths and just gut feel. Could be some regency bias and judgement clouded by some brilliant performances this weekend. Would you set the line at 17.5?

Perhaps someone will price this up soon?

[Istabraq]

I haven’t done the maths and just gut feel. Could be some regency bias and judgement clouded by some brilliant performances this weekend. Would you set the line at 17.5?

Perhaps someone will price this up soon?

If it was set at 17.5 I’d be looking to get with Ireland, I just thought that if the line was set at 19 that is likely to make Ireland more a 4s on shot.
I’d be very tempted to hit 1/3 Ireland outright and have small handicap play at 17.5 too, UK ain’t winning it that’s for sure...

[The King Pimm]

Who do you have down for the X-Country TKP?

No one at the moment Ryan, it’s the only race at the festival that I no single bets. I’ve a few multiples involving Easyland that were placed in the summer but I have to say no horse has excited me or interested me enough to bet on them. Potters Corner and Out Sam arevthe only horses I maybback at the moment but that’s only because Christian Williams has avoided all other ‘National’ races and has stated early the XC and GN are his targets and he’s good enough on paper to win and Out Sam came 3rd last festival and has ran to a similar standard to probably place this season. I think I’ll wait and until the day Ryan

[Skysthelimit]

I think the 1/3 is a decent price for people that like those sort of odds. After this weekend they might price up Willie to beat the English on his own.

[FinalFurlong91]

In case people haven't noticed if you stake ?20 on the exchange on UK/IRE horse racing every Saturday from now till the fez you get a ?10 free bet on the Monday each week

If you have the 2% commission package you'll need to contact customer services to change it as that one doesn't qualify for the offer

[Atlantic Viking]

Saw this on twitter. Selection of Irish ratings following this weekend:
Envoi Allen 164
Monkfish 163
Energumene 163
Honeysuckle 161
Kemboy 169
Asterion Forlonge 149
Blackbow 153
Zanahiyr 145
Quillixios 144
Gaillard Du Mesnil 150
Gentlemansgane 143
Blue Lord 142
Fakiera 141
Farclas 144
Saint Sam 136

[Saxon Warrior]

Copied over from my Irish Race Planning Diary.

HRI Handicappers have updated Handicap ratings this morning from the DRF.

New Ratings

Envoi Allen 164
Monkfish 163
Energumene 163
Escaria Ten 147
Busselton 133
Saint Sam 136
Andy Dufresne 149
Fils D’Oudairies 142
Colreevy 148
Darver Star 154
Blackbow 154
Asterion Forlonge 149
Blue Lord 142
Gentlemans Game 143
Appreciate It 153
Ashdale Bob 146
Ballyadam 145
Captain Guinness 152
Front View 136
Janidil 148
Keskonrisk 137
Latest Exhibition 153
Quilixios 144
Zanahiyr 145
Stattler 143
Gailard Du Mesnil 150
Ganapathi 137



Revised Ratings

N’Golo 137 (-1)
Maze Runner 135 (+10)
Damalisque 136 (+1)
Unexpected Depth 145 (+4)
Minella Times 144 (+4)
Farclas 144 (+1)
Off You Go 147 (+7)
Chosen Mate 155 (-1)
Fan Des Blues 134 (-1)
Ciel De Neige (137 (-1)
Drop The Anchor 141 (+10)
Fakir ‘D’Oudairies 162 (+3)
Heaven Help Us 133 (+7)
Elimay 153 (+5)
A Wave Of The Sea 141 (+8)
Top Moon 136 (+5)
The Shunter 135 (+3) Chase rating
Fakiera 141 (+3)
Saint D’Oroux 135 (+3)
Champagne Gold 138 (+6)
Aramax 140 (-1) Chase rating
Bapaume 149 (-1)
Irascible 139 (+1)
January Jets 140 (+2)
Pure Genius 126 (-1)
Saint Roi 155 (-2)
Saldier 156 (-3)

[Winging The Last]

Sullivan is that pissed off with how his horse have been running this season with Nicholls he's sold lots of them and now sent Dolcita to Fergal O'Brien. She's entered on Saturday in a listed mares race

[ToniC]

Keskonrisk county off 137, needs another run I believe to enter a festival handicap though? Indeed he does. Nice quiet one somewhere and he could be very well handicapped

[ToniC]

Entoucas only up 1 for his efforts to 139. Lovely grand annual prep.

[Nortons who]

134 entries for the 2:50 Maiden Hurdle at Thurles on Thursday, that must be some sort of record and possibly more than the Grand National!

[RufusFlynn]

As others have noted, good to see an upturn in the form of Joseph's horses - lots of his ran a cracker at the weekend at massive prices. Will certainly have some nicely handicapped horses for the spring. Will certainly be watching out for his entries in the Grand Annual, Boodles & Martin Pipe...

On these shores - what do people think about any of Tizzards or Hobbs' horses? Tizzards have finally bagged a couple of winners... anyone expecting bug runs from his at the Fest? Philip Hobbs hit the crossbar a few times last March, again his handicappers must be worth keeping an eye on?

[isitmarchyet]

Not sure of the best place to post this really...

365 seem to have updated their markets for the Championship races today, but I haven't seen any official list of updated entries. One I noticed missing from both the Champion Chase and Ryanair is Defi Du Seuil. I'm not saying he's a certain non-runner, but it seems odd they've removed a few from all of these markets.

Looking at Oddschecker he was still in their market for the CC at 1pm, so it's a recent change.

Main reason I'm posting is cash out might be available for him and others if some bookies haven't updated their markets. But as I said, haven't seen confirmation for any of these.

[Redbridge]

Serious question, do owners in big yards allow their animals to be used for the benefit of other owners such as pace setters or being diverted away to allow their fellow owners a free passage......my own view is I would give any trainer an east end kiss, but do these really wealthy folk allow such a piss take.

I remember the controversy over accusations that Ruby had too much say in where Mullins ran them,so to enable Ruby having a better book of rides. this was widely used when claiming the O'learys moved their animals but it is now put down to training fee's solely,.....