Dark horses for Cheltenham 2021

[Lobos]

The latter is the way to go rather than TWAR him unless you're confident and sweet on him I'd suggest.

If he's going to win a graded race at the top table he should sluice up first time in a handicap off his mark, and if he does just reinvest the winnings. If not, you've escaped a bad bet.

I don't bet outside of the Fez though unless I go racing. Think I'll have a dabble Churdle and then see what happens first time up.

[Kevloaf]

Just had a look at Hendos record in the 2 mile graded races at the festival for the last 10 years......

Arkle...3 wins and 3 placed
Champion Hurdle.....4 wins and 4 placed
Champion Chase.....5 wins and 1 placed
Supreme......2 wins and 10 placed

Quite a record that ! Clearly anything he runs in the above 4 need to be kept onside.

Well he's had some superstars hasn't he so it's hardly a shock.

It isn't like he's drawn blanks in Gold Cups and RSA's either is it...

He's just a top trainer, narrowing it down to just 2 miles isn't really proving anything to anyone?

[Lobos]

Well he's had some superstars hasn't he so it's hardly a shock.

It isn't like he's drawn blanks in Gold Cups and RSA's either is it...

He's just a top trainer, narrowing it down to just 2 miles isn't really proving anything to anyone?

Maybe. I very much doubt his record in RSA and Gold Cups win /placed is anywhere near that of 2 mile races. Did you know he's never won a Grand National ? Now that is mental. In fact he's never won a national of any sorts I think.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Maybe. I very much doubt his record in RSA and Gold Cups win /placed is anywhere near that of 2 mile races. Did you know he's never won a Grand National ? Now that is mental. In fact he's never won a national of any sorts I think.

Might bite, Bob's worth and champ off the top of my head for the RSA.

[Saxon Warrior]

Might bite, Bob's worth and champ off the top of my head for the RSA.

Long Run and Bobs Worth for the Gold Cup.

[Hurdles or chasing]

Mr Ajudicator, not sure what his injury was that kept him out for the season.

[Ray]

Bright forecast coming like a train in the ballymore, should be worth a go for the RSA

[ComplyOrDie]

Bright forecast coming like a train in the ballymore, should be worth a go for the RSA

If he shows up better than in his PTP, then definitely Ray.

He is one I have also backed for the Stayers on the exchanges, 'just in case' he can't jump a fence.

He certainly was motoring at the end of the Ballymore though!

[The King Pimm]

I was going to put Run Wild Fred up as a dark horse but his price is very tight with the big book makers currently. He never came to last years festival after winning a heavy ground 3 mile novice hurdle at Punchestown in mid February very well where he beat Lord Royal. Clearly he has an abundance of stamina and the right attitude from that performance so the RSA or 4 miler at Cheltenham may suit if he does go chasing this season?? There is little juice in his price for a Cheltenham virgin but could be a weapon for Gigginstown & Elliot this year. I’ve covered him the 4 miler but he’s on my list of horses to cover sooner than later.

[Big Bucks]

Anyone know or heard anything about Daylight Katie's well being and if going to be back? See she is 25/1 for Mares Hurdle. Would want bigger than that to be honest, especially this far out, but one im keeping tabs on.

[Saxon Warrior]

I was going to put Run Wild Fred up as a dark horse but his price is very tight with the big book makers currently. He never came to last years festival after winning a heavy ground 3 mile novice hurdle at Punchestown in mid February very well where he beat Lord Royal. Clearly he has an abundance of stamina and the right attitude from that performance so the RSA or 4 miler at Cheltenham may suit if he does go chasing this season?? There is little juice in his price for a Cheltenham virgin but could be a weapon for Gigginstown & Elliot this year. I’ve covered him the 4 miler but he’s on my list of horses to cover sooner than later.

I really think he is the main horse for the National Hunt Chase for Gordon and Giggy, but it looks like the bookies noticed that already.

[The King Pimm]

I really think he is the main horse for the National Hunt Chase for Gordon and Giggy, but it looks like the bookies noticed that already.

Me too and he’s been no bigger than 20/1 since April. He definitely has the stamina and looks the chasing type. Let’s hope he’s not this years Champagne Classic!!

[nortonscoin200]

Just been having a look at four-year-old Brandy Love who could be a contender in the Mares Novice Hurdle.

She beat the geldings when scoring a comfortable 8-lengths win in a 2m 4f maiden PTP on heavy at Cragmore in February.

Then she was bought for £200k by Willie Mullins' star scout Harold Kirk at the Tattersalls sale in Cheltenham the same month.

She's best price 25-1 for the mares novice hurdle but WH are going the same price TWAR. For some reason Hills don't seem to what to give me their bet boost any more so I haven't backed her yet.

But Brandy Love's PTP win looked pretty decent and Willie's won the mares novice hurdle five times in a row - Concertista being the only one not aged five.

I don't recall her being flagged up on the forum - anyone have a view or know any more about her?

Here's a link to a replay of her PTP win:

https://www.tattersallscheltenham.com/sales/cheltenham-february-sale

[Lobos]

I was going to put Run Wild Fred up as a dark horse but his price is very tight with the big book makers currently. He never came to last years festival after winning a heavy ground 3 mile novice hurdle at Punchestown in mid February very well where he beat Lord Royal. Clearly he has an abundance of stamina and the right attitude from that performance so the RSA or 4 miler at Cheltenham may suit if he does go chasing this season?? There is little juice in his price for a Cheltenham virgin but could be a weapon for Gigginstown & Elliot this year. I’ve covered him the 4 miler but he’s on my list of horses to cover sooner than later.

He does look very interesting for the 4 miler. Would like to see him have 3/4 chase runs and preferably one at Cheltenham but he's with the right connections and is the ideal age. I think I'll add him.

He's only 12/1 TWAR which is very short so going to wait until Stable tour or an entry to see what's what and before committing.

[Attaglance]

Beacon Edge - Noel Meade horse - All 6 races have been ran at 2M with 3 NHF races and 3 Hurdle races.

Record in the hurdle races read - 1/2/2, beaten by a nose by Jason the Miltant and beaten by a neck by Cedarwood Road with Andy Dufrense 3rd and 4 lengths behind Beacon Edge.

Record in NHF, 1/4/3, beaten 4th by Envoi Allen by 3 1/4 lengths only and beaten 3rd by Colreevy by 1 3/4 lengths only and 1 length behind Abracadabra in 2nd. Certainly not in bad company while running on the NHF.

Possible not a dark horse as the form has been strong and is linked in with the 1st post on the thread with Cederwood Road, but I will put up Beacon Edge.

The link below is just after his 2nd place finish to Jason the Miltant beaten by a nose, haven’t seen anymore news since.

https://www.racingtv.com/news/meade-has-high-hopes-for-edge

What is the thoughts on Beacon Edge going Novice chasing this year?

I see he is not priced up in any markets yet would someone mind requesting him preferably on Bet365 for all Novice chases and possible throw in a few others horses when requesting as I don’t want the standard 33/1 most bookies seem to offer when requesting 1 horse. I am would only be interested in this Horse for the Arkle out of the 3 Novice chases.

Given a few on here have mentioned Andy Dufrense as possible going the Arkle route and Cedarwood Road is priced up at 40/1 for Arkle, I would certainly be interested in Beacon Edge if I could get 40/1+ preferably 50/1.

See below Noel Meade’s record in the Arkle since the year 2000;

Noel Meade Record - since 2000 - 5 Runners = 2 placed, 1 came 4th, 1 came 11th and 1 fell while leading 3 out.

1 runner - 2011 - finished 3rd - Realt Dubh
1 runner - 2006 - finished 4th - Wild Passion (13 Runners)
2 runners - 2005 - finished 4th &11th with (19 Runners)
1 runner - 2000 - fell 3 out while leading by 1 length and “still going comfortably”.

https://www.skysports.com/racing/results/full-result/1457/cheltenham/14-03-2000/irish-independent-arkle-challenge-trophy-chase

Given 4 of his 5 runners would of certainly given you a run for your money in the race not a trainer to dismiss if a runner turns up in the Arkle.

Interested to hear the thoughts on Beacon Edge.