Cheltz Fest 2021 Behind Closed Doors ?

[Garrison Savannah]

PS agree 5000 would be a huge win. Not sure how many corporate tickets are sold - but they will get the first dibs as they pay the most money. My guess after that would be a ballot amongst the members, as is common with cricket.

[Quevega]

Just spoke to my mum.

The Oxford Vaccine can be stored in a fridge so could be much easier to administer, even in schools and chemists.
Just need to get that on on the shelf ASAP.
That would have a lot more chance of getting numbers up, although I'd still be surprised if they get many millions dosed up by Springtime.

[Lobos]

Just spoke to my mum.

The Oxford Vaccine can be stored in a fridge so could be much easier to administer, even in schools and chemists.
Just need to get that on on the shelf ASAP.
That would have a lot more chance of getting numbers up, although I'd still be surprised if they get many millions dosed up by Springtime.

They've already freed up all the Covid Nightingale hospitals that they built around the country to administer the Vaccines from. Plans already in place.

[archie]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55048438

I'd like to see this idea extended to events where attendance restricted. No certificate, no entry.

[Istabraq]

I’m very frustrated and I’m more than missing racing. It’s seriously having a negative effect on my well being. Currently having to self isolate,

Sorry to hear that GS, I feel for anyone who is struggling during these times, I know a few in here have confessed to feeling low, you and everyone affected have my best wishes.
Hopefully these latest developments and in particular the prospect on being in a racecourse in little more than a week will provide the hope that we all need.
I wish you well

[Istabraq]

Just spoke to my mum.

The Oxford Vaccine can be stored in a fridge so could be much easier to administer, even in schools and chemists.
Just need to get that on on the shelf ASAP.
That would have a lot more chance of getting numbers up, although I'd still be surprised if they get many millions dosed up by Springtime.

There is already a scheme being discussed where anyone intending on entering a sports arena must provide a negative test result in the preceding 24 hours, that along with temp checks at turnstiles should allow for greater numbers until the mass vaccination can be rolled out...

[Faugheen_Machine]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55048438

I'd like to see this idea extended to events where attendance restricted. No certificate, no entry.

Absolutely Archie.

Most of the people I speak to say they aren't having the vaccine and it feels like I'm in the minority by saying I'd have it.

My response to them - I don't think you should be allowed to travel abroad, visit mass gatherings (football, racecourse etc) or even go into a pub without proof of vaccine. I'd even put them to the back of the queue for NHS treatment. It's the starter for a good debate

[charlie]

Absolutely Archie.

Most of the people I speak to say they aren't having the vaccine and it feels like I'm in the minority by saying I'd have it.

My response to them - I don't think you should be allowed to travel abroad, visit mass gatherings (football, racecourse etc) or even go into a pub without proof of vaccine. I'd even put them to the back of the queue for NHS treatment. It's the starter for a good debate

Or a fast track back to Germany circa 1945

I do like the debate on this though. My idea (in the pub) was the police should use the facial recognition software they use at the football to identify Covidiots at rallies, mass gatherings, and those flouting the rules - to then deny those people treatment in their time of need. I was shot down and told things like that will never happen as we live in a 'civilised society'

[Outlaw]

Absolutely Archie.

Most of the people I speak to say they aren't having the vaccine and it feels like I'm in the minority by saying I'd have it.

My response to them - I don't think you should be allowed to travel abroad, visit mass gatherings (football, racecourse etc) or even go into a pub without proof of vaccine. I'd even put them to the back of the queue for NHS treatment. It's the starter for a good debate

I'd actually go one further and say while it's an individuals choice, if you choose to not have it & did require hospital treatment, I would charge for the costs incurred. May sound incredibly harsh but if you refuse to try to eridicate the problem you should the face the costs just like those flaunting the rules now.

[Faugheen_Machine]

I'd actually go one further and say while it's an individuals choice, if you choose to not have it & did require hospital treatment, I would charge for the costs incurred. May sound incredibly harsh but if you refuse to try to eridicate the problem you should the face the costs just like those flaunting the rules now.

It winds me up so much.

Putting a travel ban on those that don't want a vaccine would be so easy to police - I hope this is done.

[Jorvik]

https://www.bbc.co.uk/news/world-australia-55048438

I'd like to see this idea extended to events where attendance restricted. No certificate, no entry.

Luckily we don't live in North Korea and our gov have already said this wont be the way forward.

[ryanh97]

I'm completely pro-vaccine and I'm not the greatest fan of the anti-vax brigade. But there are people out there with genuine concerns, to strip away civil liberties because of not having a vaccine, I find absurd, if not dangerous.

Let alone the fact that people under the age of 50 (especially people around my age - 23) will be at the bottom of the pile and not getting vaccines for a long while, are we just going to not let any of them into sports venues because they haven't been vaccinated? Let's just go the whole hog, call an election and only let the old vaccinated people vote.

[Jorvik]

I'd actually go one further and say while it's an individuals choice, if you choose to not have it & did require hospital treatment, I would charge for the costs incurred. May sound incredibly harsh but if you refuse to try to eridicate the problem you should the face the costs just like those flaunting the rules now.

How many family members of people on here, maybe even the posters themselves, have needed hospital treatment because of what are ultimately lifestyle choices? How many will at some point because they're overweight, smoke, drank too much. What about people who take part in sports knowing there's a risk they'll get injured, which is just about every sport, should we apply your logic to them too? Some people are coming out with some amount of sh1te off the back of all this. No vaccinations are mandatory in this country, 1000's die every year of flu, most at risk get offered the jab, the rest of us can pay for it if we want to, but the vast majority of us don't even thought plenty will get flu and many may pass it on. So many people seem to have spent most of 2020 daydreaming about wearing an SS uniform.

Edit: Just to add as plenty seem to be struggling with it, we aren't going to eradicate Covid, same as you don't eradicate flu. It will always be here, life will have to go on. This was also the message from Chris Whitty and co last night too, not just my internet warrior ramblings.

[ryanh97]

How many family members of people on here, maybe even the posters themselves, have needed hospital treatment because of what are ultimately lifestyle choices? How many will at some point because they're overweight, smoke, drank too much. What about people who take part in sports knowing there's a risk they'll get injured, which is just about every sport, should we apply your logic to them too? Some people are coming out with some amount of sh1te off the back of all this. No vaccinations are mandatory in this country, 1000's die every year of flu, most at risk get offered the jab, the rest of us can pay for it if we want to, but the vast majority of us don't even thought plenty will get flu and many may pass it on. So many people seem to have spent most of 2020 daydreaming about wearing an SS uniform.

Couldn't agree more SS. Let's just start charging smokers for treatment if they get lung cancer. If you fall down the stairs at the pub on a Friday night and crack your head open, either cough up the funds or bleed out on the dance floor. Bordering on insanity.

[Jorvik]

It winds me up so much.

Putting a travel ban on those that don't want a vaccine would be so easy to police - I hope this is done.

PHE say the 5 year average for influenza deaths is 17000. At risk people get a letter to go for a jab each year, I know because I used to have asthma so I still get one, but it isn't mandatory. I'm fairly certain that most years supermarkets like ASDA buy a load too and sell them for about ?15, all told it's a fairly straightforward jab to get if you want to, but the majority choose not to. Should we have a travel ban and what not for the 10s of millions who don't have the influenza vaccination?