Mares Chase 2021

[nortonscoin200]

That list really highlights how shite this race is doesn’t it. Both Benie and PTKO would absolutely trounce them.

MoM I like your confidence in Benie and hope you are proved right.

But - I think maybe you do have the blinkers on where Benie is concerned.

Earlier in the season I - like you - thought this might be a weak race which cuts up.

But now I'm not so sure - and the uncertainty around Benie's participation makes me think others will be encouraged to give it a go - and we could end up with a big field.

Also, I think you are being rather dismissive of some of the others by saying Benie - or indeed PTKO - would trounce them.

Benie's best RPR in 3 chase runs was only 147 - yes I know they were almost 3 years ago but she was 7 at the time. In 13 starts over hurdles Benie has only twice recorded RPRs higher than 156 - 158 and 162.

Now compare those figures to a few of her opponents:

Shattered Love, commonly thought to be past her best, posted an RPR of 160 in a chase just two months ago.

Colreevy posted an RPR of 152 last time out - on only her second chase start, 5lbs better than Benie has managed over fences.

Happy Diva has recorded RPRS of 155, 154 and 152 on her last three runs over fences at Cheltenham.

Elimay also posted an RPR of 148 on her second start over fences last January. Again better than Benie managed at the same stage of her brief chasing career.

So I think it's a bit optimistic to say this will be a stroll in the park for Benie.

If Benie turns up it will be on the back of an interrupted preparation.

And she will not have jumped a fence in public for three years - or at best will have had the benefit of one prep run. Far from ideal in my book.

Imagine she will have to post around 156+ to win it and that would make it one of her top 3 rated performances ever - by no means a gimmee.

But having said all that, rest assured MoM, I'll be cheering Benie for all I'm worth.

Good luck chum.

[Lobos]

No sign of Elfile yet. Is she injured? She was meant to be Honeysuckle's 'substitute' in this race to allow her to have one more season hurdling. As we've not seen her over a fence yet, perhaps she's going to be Honey's replacement in the Mares Hurdle for Kenny Alexander and have her prep in the Quevega Hurdle again?? She was only beaten by Honey and Benie last year so on paper she is the one to beat. Is she the forgotten horse in the Mares Hurdle???

[Kevloaf]

MoM I like your confidence in Benie and hope you are proved right.

But - I think maybe you do have the blinkers on where Benie is concerned.

Earlier in the season I - like you - thought this might be a weak race which cuts up.

But now I'm not so sure - and the uncertainty around Benie's participation makes me think others will be encouraged to give it a go - and we could end up with a big field.

Also, I think you are being rather dismissive of some of the others by saying Benie - or indeed PTKO - would trounce them.

Benie's best RPR in 3 chase runs was only 147 - yes I know they were almost 3 years ago but she was 7 at the time. In 13 starts over hurdles Benie has only twice recorded RPRs higher than 156 - 158 and 162.

Now compare those figures to a few of her opponents:

Shattered Love, commonly thought to be past her best, posted an RPR of 160 in a chase just two months ago.

Colreevy posted an RPR of 152 last time out - on only her second chase start, 5lbs better than Benie has managed over fences.

Happy Diva has recorded RPRS of 155, 154 and 152 on her last three runs over fences at Cheltenham.

Elimay also posted an RPR of 148 on her second start over fences last January. Again better than Benie managed at the same stage of her brief chasing career.

So I think it's a bit optimistic to say this will be a stroll in the park for Benie.

If Benie turns up it will be on the back of an interrupted preparation.

And she will not have jumped a fence in public for three years - or at best will have had the benefit of one prep run. Far from ideal in my book.

Imagine she will have to post around 156+ to win it and that would make it one of her top 3 rated performances ever - by no means a gimee.

But having said all that, rest assured MoM, I'll be cheering Benie for all I'm worth.

Good luck chum.

Well thought out and explains why she's priced at 5/2 NRNB not 1/2 like MoM and I think she should be

It'll be interesting to see what she would run to in this, and whether it's within 7 lbs of the Ryanair winner.... but I won't derail another....

[KingSprinterSacre]

No sign of Elfile yet. Is she injured? She was meant to be Honeysuckle's 'substitute' in this race to allow her to have one more season hurdling. As we've not seen her over a fence yet, perhaps she's going to be Honey's replacement in the Mares Hurdle for Kenny Alexander and have her prep in the Quevega Hurdle again?? She was only beaten by Honey and Benie last year so on paper she is the one to beat. Is she the forgotten horse in the Mares Hurdle???

No sign, no talk no entries. She is one i've cashed over the last few days. Will reassess if she gets an entry

[Saxon Warrior]

No sign, no talk no entries. She is one i've cashed over the last few days. Will reassess if she gets an entry

Yes, I’ve cashed out too.

“No talk - No entries” for Willies horses at this time of the year, is a negative sign - for Elfile and any horse he trains that hasn’t had a run all season.

[Lobos]

Yes, I’ve cashed out too.

“No talk - No entries” for Willies horses at this time of the year, is a negative sign - for Elfile and any horse he trains that hasn’t had a run all season.

I reckon they are planning on giving her a prep in the Quevega which she won impressively last year and then she'll go straight to the Mares Hurdle where she'll be a very good back up to Concertista. That's my thinking anyway.

[TigerRolllllll]

Might have missed any discussion on this....so pols if have. A key question....

As this is a G2, will there be a penalty (7 pounds?) for any previous G1 winners? Assume this would apply to only chase wins?

If so, may impact some of way we look at this

[ryanh97]

Might have missed any discussion on this....so pols if have. A key question....

As this is a G2, will there be a penalty (7 pounds?) for any previous G1 winners? Assume this would apply to only chase wins?

If so, may impact some of way we look at this

Think it was 5lb for Grade 1 winner, 3lb for G2 winners

[Kevloaf]

Might have missed any discussion on this....so pols if have. A key question....

As this is a G2, will there be a penalty (7 pounds?) for any previous G1 winners? Assume this would apply to only chase wins?

If so, may impact some of way we look at this

Hey,

You have missed it .... let me find the posts..... bear with....



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[TigerRolllllll]

Hey,

You have missed it .... let me find the posts..... bear with....

Hi Kev....you asked me to tag u....so hope this works

Thx for looking

[Saxon Warrior]

DAME DE COMPAGNIE entered in a 2M Novice Chase at Ayr on Monday (1.25pm)

Not a Mares Only Novice Chase - Cornerstone Lad is entered too.

[Garrison Savannah]

Good news for those with MC tickets. Plenty of people hovering over the button watching that possibly

[Kevloaf]

DAME DE COMPAGNIE entered in a 2M Novice Chase at Ayr on Monday (1.25pm)

Not a Mares Only Novice Chase - Cornerstone Lad is entered too.

Might request an Arkle price

[charlie]

DAME DE COMPAGNIE entered in a 2M Novice Chase at Ayr on Monday (1.25pm)

Not a Mares Only Novice Chase - Cornerstone Lad is entered too.

Thanks for posting, looking forward to seeing her

[somer1]

Might request an Arkle price

Cheers Kev. Just cashed out for mares hurdle