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Triumph Hurdle 2021

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  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

    Haha yeah that has been a bit strange.

    I'd trust Davy on anything in a big race.

    I'm not far off feeling that with Jack though....


    It's very much recency bias though...... 2 years ago Robbie Power couldn't have been more flavour of the month, this season, people see him on a horse as a genuine negative.


    Then again, some morons (yeah, I said it!) on here crabbed Barry Geraghty, and he embarassed them so badly at the festival that I don't even thing they're still here ..... so it's nothing new.


    I wouldn't have been Paul Townend's biggest fan (in terms of him not being superior to the rest compared to Ruby)..... if he bangs in 5 winners, I wonder if I'll feel the same

    I remember Lydia Hislop putting down Richard Johnson claiming he was useless at the London Racing Club forum.

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    • Originally posted by Kotkijet View Post
      33/1 Haut En Couleurs bg W P Mullins j1-1-0 (-) 126
      Saint Des Saints (Muhtathir){8-c}(0.60) 1/0 Sanouva 1st Prix Congress (G2), Auteuil 2012

      The Prix Pride Of Kildare is a race for hurdling debutants held at Auteuil in early October. Popular chaser Exotic Dancer would be the race's most notorious winner back in 2003. Since then, the winners of the contest have not had a great deal to shout about, with 2012 winner Laristo perhaps faring best when second in the Prix Cambaceres. Given its position on the calender, it is not a prolific source of juvenile hurdlers with Sang Bleu being the only winner to race in the UK when joining Paul Nicholls in 2009. Four other runners have subsequently crossed the channel during the same season, but none since Le Fin Bois in 2013. Other winners did eventually make their way to the UK and Ireland later in their careers, but did not find much success. Breaking the mould in this peculiar year is the latest winner Haut En Couleurs who won the latest renewal by a head. Slightly hampered at the first, wasn't always tidy in what was a messy race and and he had to be ridden into a few. Nevertheless, he was also neat at a few other the others and though he hung left, he got the best of a protracted battle to the line where the front two pulled fifteen lengths clear of the remainder. The runner-up was beaten in a chase at Pau just before Christmas, but the third placed Magic Dream won his next two starts, including the Grade Two Prix Congress steeplechase. Fourth placed Invite Special has shown fair form behind Houx Gris and finished third in a listed hurdle at Auteuil before winning a chase at Pau. Former trainer Gabriel Leenders has yet to send any winning juveniles to the UK or Ireland, and both Paros and Ronde De Nuit have been disappointing this term. Nevertheless, the Leenders family has been responsible for some good types over the years including Clarcam and Politologue. Willie Mullins needs no introduction but the pedigree of Haut en Couleurs is certainly noteworthy. By top stallion Saint des Saints, Haut En Couleurs is out of Prix Congress (a Grade Two for three-year-old Chasers) winner Sanouva who has already produced winning chaser Gentilhomme. Sanouva is a half-sister to two good juveniles in Nicknos, who won the Prix Wild Monarch, and Hippomene who won both of the Grade Ones available to horses in the age group. When something looks as good as this on paper, exercising scepticism is imperative. So the negatives are that the race he won is not prolific, it was ran over eighteen furlongs on heavy ground meaning he is unproven in a race that demands more speed, and he was rather green on his racecourse debut of all things. He could be bred to make a chaser but given the precocity of his damline, and the fact that Saint des Saints' offspring are perfectly capable of performing while young, this might be a stretch. The only realistic concern is that he has only raced once and it is typically unwise to base a reputation around a solitary performance - even if the well beaten third has gone on to be a good horse. Nevertheless, Haut En Couleurs has joined a fine yard, he showed grit and class on his sole outing and his pedigree is exquisite. There is little more one could ask from a once raced prospect and he is a very exciting prospect for this season.
      Just been catching up with this weeks Road to Cheltenham, Lydia talks about horses unraced over hurdles who still hold Triumph entries, mentions Willie has 2 of them, but also an interesting horse called Haut En Couleurs. Ruby comments "He's a fine big horse. He's in full training. I think the plan is to go to the Triumph". Had a look at him, plenty of interesting form to go off, thankfully I searched here as the quoted post explains better than I ever could. Still 33/1 NRNB with Sky.

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      • Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post

        Just been catching up with this weeks Road to Cheltenham, Lydia talks about horses unraced over hurdles who still hold Triumph entries, mentions Willie has 2 of them, but also an interesting horse called Haut En Couleurs. Ruby comments "He's a fine big horse. He's in full training. I think the plan is to go to the Triumph". Had a look at him, plenty of interesting form to go off, thankfully I searched here as the quoted post explains better than I ever could. Still 33/1 NRNB with Sky.
        Missed them talking about this.
        cheers
        I’ll back that

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

          Missed them talking about this.
          cheers
          I’ll back that
          If only you kept up with Kevloaf.


          He ain't gonna run though.... Tax For Max or the other one ....

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

            If only you kept up with Kevloaf.


            He ain't gonna run though.... Tax For Max or the other one ....
            I do try to keep up.
            It's like a wormhole though.

            I actually heard him mention the other 2 and saw you back them, but wasn't as interested.
            Did he say this one was not going to run then or have you heard ?

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            • Obviously he's not entered up here, but Monmiral has just hammered Nassalam.

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              • Originally posted by Bonjers View Post
                Obviously he's not entered up here, but Monmiral has just hammered Nassalam.
                Not good for the Adagio formline. Monmiral battered him.

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                • Originally posted by Bonjers View Post
                  Obviously he's not entered up here, but Monmiral has just hammered Nassalam.
                  Are they going to Aintree with Monmiral? Can't remember what they said.

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                  • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                    Are they going to Aintree with Monmiral? Can't remember what they said.
                    Yeah skipping Cheltenham for aintree

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                    • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                      Are they going to Aintree with Monmiral? Can't remember what they said.
                      Think he was taken out of the entries too... so not like they could u-turn.

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                      • Originally posted by Faugheen_Machine View Post

                        Are they going to Aintree with Monmiral? Can't remember what they said.
                        There seems to be a high percentage of Paul Nicholls horses that are not suited by Cheltenham or are more suited to flat tracks of late


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                        • Originally posted by Liammet View Post
                          There seems to be a high percentage of Paul Nicholls horses that are not suited by Cheltenham or are more suited to flat tracks of late

                          Nicholls and his prodigy seem to be having a lot of runners at the moment, Skelton in particular getting a fair few winners.
                          Seems to me Cheltenham is not their priority. Hendo flying the flag once again i feel.

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                          • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                            Nicholls and his prodigy seem to be having a lot of runners at the moment, Skelton in particular getting a fair few winners.
                            Seems to me Cheltenham is not their priority. Hendo flying the flag once again i feel.
                            Some good pots to be won pre Cheltenham and skelton seems happy to be picking them up !

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                            • Originally posted by Ice View Post

                              Some good pots to be won pre Cheltenham and skelton seems happy to be picking them up !
                              They do indeed, maybe they are having their own competition for most winners.
                              Be surprised if they have more than a couple between them at Cheltenham.

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                              • Originally posted by Carnage at Taunton View Post

                                They do indeed, maybe they are having their own competition for most winners.
                                Be surprised if they have more than a couple between them at Cheltenham.
                                There's not many races left for them to win after mullins and elliott have finished !

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