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Triumph Hurdle 2021

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  • Imagine if Quilixios had not run

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    • Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post
      Just quickly picking a few off the top of my head.

      Winners in last 14 days:
      W Mullins - 35% (11/31)
      P Nicholls - 28% (13/47)
      G Elliott - 23% (11/47)
      N Henderson - 23% (9/40)
      G Moore - 15% (4/27)
      A King - 14% (5/35)
      H De Bromhead - 11% (2/19)
      C Tizzard - 9% (3/32)
      You have to remember the horses running out of these stables at this time are, for want of a word, shite.

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      • Originally posted by Atlantic Viking View Post
        Interesting to see Haut En Couleurs still in there. Fascinating little race this.
        I'd agree.

        Obviously very much an unknown but if it's the Mullins main Triumph Hurdle hope there's probably value backing blind at current prices?

        Race can often throw up an outsider

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        • Originally posted by Bluefox21 View Post

          I'd agree.

          Obviously very much an unknown but if it's the Mullins main Triumph Hurdle hope there's probably value backing blind at current prices?

          Race can often throw up an outsider
          Haut En Couleurs may be in because the rest of his has flopped though..... his 'main dart' was bought, French Aseel, everything else hasn't made the grade?

          Now don't get me wrong, I back the Mullins entries blindly and it's a good approach (done the same this year) but just wouldn't get carried away that they must be good ....

          In terms of the race throwing up an outsider,

          2020 Burning Victory only went off 12s, and essentially a freak unseat meant the fav Goshen didn't win?
          2019 Pentland Hills won but Sir Erec broke down during the race and again, it's a freak incident?
          2018 Farclas, single figures at 9/1 when Apple's Shakira was only 4th.
          2017 Defi Su Seuil was 5/2f
          2016 Ivanovic Gorbatov 9/2f
          2015 Peace And Co 2/1f
          2014 Tiger Roll 10/1
          2013 Our Conor 4/1 (how on earth did Rolling Star go off fav haha)
          2012 Countrywide Flame was 33/1, so a shock.
          2011 Zarkandar 13/2
          2010 Soldatino 6/1


          So in the last 11 years, only 3 double figure winners, one was because of Goshen unseating?

          I'm not sure I'd be going much deeper in the market than the top of it based on that personally

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          • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

            Haut En Couleurs may be in because the rest of his has flopped though..... his 'main dart' was bought, French Aseel, everything else hasn't made the grade?
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            The horse arrived at Closutton at end January so I suspect Mullins didn’t think there was a suitable race for him.
            I'm guessing when a horse arrives from France it takes a while for them to acclimatise so I doubt he would have been ready to run until very recently and risking a run in deep ground close to the festival is a big risk so get him race ready at home and head straight to Cheltenham.
            I know they like him, he could easily challenge...

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            • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

              The horse arrived at Closutton at end January so I suspect Mullins didn’t think there was a suitable race for him.
              I'm guessing when a horse arrives from France it takes a while for them to acclimatise so I doubt he would have been ready to run until very recently and risking a run in deep ground close to the festival is a big risk so get him race ready at home and head straight to Cheltenham.
              I know they like him, he could easily challenge...
              I backed him on 13th Dec so that'd tie in.

              I assume they'll just throw him in, he'll run how he runs and be a novice for next year personally, rather than him be "the one" for this year.


              12/1 is a bonkers short price.

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              • I remember a mullins/ricci horse called dicosimo having its first run for mullins in the triumph a number of years ago.

                I think he might have went off about 8/1, travelled well enough to a point and then went out like a light, and never went on to be anything special. I dont know much about haut en coleurs and he might be very good, but its just a word of warning that just because these connections throw one in at the deep end on debut, it doesnt have to mean that they are working very well or anything like that.

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                • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                  I backed him on 13th Dec so that'd tie in.

                  I assume they'll just throw him in, he'll run how he runs and be a novice for next year personally, rather than him be "the one" for this year.


                  12/1 is a bonkers short price.
                  Won in France so won't be a novice next year. This is how they seem to have campaigned Ha D'Or though with both runs over hurdles being grade 2 and grade 1s. Good experience for a 4 year old if they leave him until next year.

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                  • Casa Loupi making the Tritonic form look even worse, irons or not!

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                    • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post
                      Casa Loupi making the Tritonic form look even worse, irons or not!
                      The horse that won also finished behind Tritonic on debut though.

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                      • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                        The horse that won also finished behind Tritonic on debut though.
                        Indeed. And he may well have improved. But Casa Loupi is the horse that has finished closest to Tritonic twice and as a backer you'd surely have wanted him to win that race today?

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                        • Originally posted by Can't Catch Me View Post

                          Indeed. And he may well have improved. But Casa Loupi is the horse that has finished closest to Tritonic twice and as a backer you'd surely have wanted him to win that race today?
                          Casa Loupi is a nut job

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                          • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post

                            Casa Loupi is a nut job
                            There is that

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                            • Tritonic trounced both horses, which go on to finish 1st and 2nd trouncing the rest.
                              Looks like franking form to me.

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                              • Vulcan runs later on today too, and he finished a distant third behind Tritonic on his debut. Could be another boost to come.

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