Triumph Hurdle 2021

[somer1]

Im on Quilixios for this but hit the 22/1 with skybet last night for Paros.

[Liam301287]

I only had a bet on Quillixios free bets at 25's will not be using any cash on this race till at least December time early Jan.

[JackieMoon33]

Quilixios declared for Saturday. Shit just got real.

[Hardy Eustace]

Quilixios declared for Saturday. Shit just got real.

Decent. Lets see what he's made of.

[Saxon Warrior]

Chief Justice won this Juvenile Hurdle with a 4lb penalty by 5 lengths, two years ago, for Gordy/Cheveley.
He looked pretty good until the opposition improved.

Quilixios could win this comfortably and it not mean much for Cheltenham.
Like any juvenile/novice his jumping of hurdles is going to be the interesting thing for me to watch.

[Hardy Eustace]

Chief Justice won this Juvenile Hurdle with a 4lb penalty by 5 lengths, two years ago, for Gordy/Cheveley.
He looked pretty good until the opposition improved.

Quilixios could win this comfortably and it not mean much for Cheltenham.
Like any juvenile/novice his jumping of hurdles is going to be the interesting thing for me to watch.

Absolutely right. I will try not to get too carried away. It is not very often that the Triumph winner is running in October, only DDS that I can remember, he won an egg and spoon race at Ffos Las before following up at Cheltenham in November.

[JackieMoon33]

Chief Justice won this Juvenile Hurdle with a 4lb penalty by 5 lengths, two years ago, for Gordy/Cheveley.
He looked pretty good until the opposition improved.

Quilixios could win this comfortably and it not mean much for Cheltenham.
Like any juvenile/novice his jumping of hurdles is going to be the interesting thing for me to watch.

No juvenile, maiden or novice hurdle at this time of the year will indicate much other than horses are alive. All I'll be looking for is something reasonably close to his performance in France as I'm sure Gordon would not have him fully cooked right now. The main problem is that, rightly or wrongly, his price could be contracted if he hacks up.

[Saxon Warrior]

Just looking at the video for QUILIXIOS winning in France, over Hurdles over 2M on 2nd March 2020.

I know the definition of a Novice Hurdler, or Novice Chaser, is a horse which has not won a Hurdle or Chase before the end of April.

Is this different for Juvenile Hurdlers, and those running in the Triumph Hurdle?

Ive got a question mark over Quilixios being eligible for the Triumph Hurdle if he won a French Hurdle race on 2nd March 2020 (before even this years Triumph Hurdle).

Does anyone know the rules for eligibility of Juvenile Hurdlers? - or can they run at any time in France but still be eligible (UK & IRE don't have 3yo Hurdles in March) - it would seem a strange one if true, and completely favour French 3yo hurdlers.

It could be just a french racing advantage as Pic D'Hory won in March 2018 and April 2018 as a 3yo over hurdles, before running in the Triumph the following March as a 4yo.

[Faugheen_Machine]

Just looking at the video for QUILIXIOS winning in France, over Hurdles over 2M on 2nd March 2020.

I know the definition of a Novice Hurdler, or Novice Chaser, is a horse which has not won a Hurdle or Chase before the end of April.

Is this different for Juvenile Hurdlers, and those running in the Triumph Hurdle?

Ive got a question mark over Quilixios being eligible for the Triumph Hurdle if he won a French Hurdle race on 2nd March 2020 (before even this years Triumph Hurdle).

Does anyone know the rules for eligibility of Juvenile Hurdlers? - or can they run at any time in France but still be eligible (UK & IRE don't have 3yo Hurdles in March) - it would seem a strange one if true, and completely favour French 3yo hurdlers.

You are our go to guy for race conditions, so if you don't know we might be struggling.

I would have thought he'd be fine to run given that 3 year old hurdles (from the previous season) aren't a thing in Britain.

[Saxon Warrior]

No juvenile, maiden or novice hurdle at this time of the year will indicate much other than horses are alive. All I'll be looking for is something reasonably close to his performance in France as I'm sure Gordon would not have him fully cooked right now. The main problem is that, rightly or wrongly, his price could be contracted if he hacks up.

I agree JackieM.

However, I do think that I got attracted a little too much by the potential for horses prices contracting last season, rather than be more mercenary and focusing on performances that suggest/shout Festival winning-potential.

My plan is to be harder to please this year, and not to be drawn in as often on possible price-contractors.

That should stop me having any more account restrictions applied to me - I cant afford more of those, particularly on horses that ended up not winning at the Festival

[Lobos]

You are our go to guy for race conditions, so if you don't know we might be struggling.

I would have thought he'd be fine to run given that 3 year old hurdles (from the previous season) aren't a thing in Britain.

If not qualified, bets would have to be refunded anyways.

[Saxon Warrior]

You are our go to guy for race conditions, so if you don't know we might be struggling.

I would have thought he'd be fine to run given that 3 year old hurdles (from the previous season) aren't a thing in Britain.

FM,

its not written into the Triumph Hurdle conditions in the Jumpers Pattern Book, and Pic D'Hory could do it 2 years ago, so it must be fine, and an advantage the French Juveniles have over the Irish and British ones.

Its no wonder that the cheque-books are out for French 3yo hurdlers each year.

[JackieMoon33]

Just looking at the video for QUILIXIOS winning in France, over Hurdles over 2M on 2nd March 2020.

I know the definition of a Novice Hurdler, or Novice Chaser, is a horse which has not won a Hurdle or Chase before the end of April.

Is this different for Juvenile Hurdlers, and those running in the Triumph Hurdle?

Ive got a question mark over Quilixios being eligible for the Triumph Hurdle if he won a French Hurdle race on 2nd March 2020 (before even this years Triumph Hurdle).

Does anyone know the rules for eligibility of Juvenile Hurdlers? - or can they run at any time in France but still be eligible (UK & IRE don't have 3yo Hurdles in March) - it would seem a strange one if true, and completely favour French 3yo hurdlers.

It could be just a french racing advantage as Pic D'Hory won in March 2018 and April 2018 as a 3yo over hurdles, before running in the Triumph the following March as a 4yo.

Eligibility for the Triumph is purely based on meeting the age criteria and nothing to do with any previous victories.

[Quevega]

Eligibility for the Triumph is purely based on meeting the age criteria and nothing to do with any previous victories.

I thought that.
Then I overthought it, as usual.
So daren't say it.

[Lobos]

I thought that.
Then I overthought it, as usual.
So daren't say it.

Keep it simple Q. That's my motto.....