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A few nice upcoming roll up opportunities I've noticed in case there's anyone scouting for some,
Mark Selby to beat Ronnie O'Sullivan 11/8 and Selby to win the comp 5/2
I think he is way overpriced here and I even got 7/2 on him winning the comp last night when he was the same price as kyren Wilson who has never won anything. His win over Robertson was one of his best performances in a long time and with the matches getting even longer at the semi stages he's only going to get better, while its a disadvantage for Ronnie IMO.
Atletico Madrid to reach the final of the champions league 11/4 or possibly higher (couldn't find the market on oddschecker)
For a team who dumped out the defending champs Liverpool in the last round I think they are a big price to essentially beat rb Leipzig and the winners of PSG vs atalanta. None of those 3 teams are on Liverpool's level and I think atletico are more than capable of taking care of any of them.
A few nice upcoming roll up opportunities I've noticed in case there's anyone scouting for some,
Mark Selby to beat Ronnie O'Sullivan 11/8 and Selby to win the comp 5/2
I think he is way overpriced here and I even got 7/2 on him winning the comp last night when he was the same price as kyren Wilson who has never won anything. His win over Robertson was one of his best performances in a long time and with the matches getting even longer at the semi stages he's only going to get better, while its a disadvantage for Ronnie IMO.
Atletico Madrid to reach the final of the champions league 11/4 or possibly higher (couldn't find the market on oddschecker)
For a team who dumped out the defending champs Liverpool in the last round I think they are a big price to essentially beat rb Leipzig and the winners of PSG vs atalanta. None of those 3 teams are on Liverpool's level and I think atletico are more than capable of taking care of any of them.
I'm not currently scouting, but I do like the angles there.
With Kameko going for the Juddmonte next week, instead of heading to France, I've had 0.5pt each way on the following - primarily as Ladbrokes are top price 8/1 (17/2 boosted) and also top/joint top price on the Cheltenham selections:
Malone Road (Supreme) 28/1 and Kameko 17/2* - @274.5/1 Double
Angels Breath (Ryanair) 28/1 and Kameko 17/2* - @274.5/1 Double
Is he going to France now ?
I’ve backed lord north for Juddmonte off back of him being left in the Marois today.
I backed Kameko for the Juddmonte based on Andrew Balding's latest comments, albeit it's reported by one of the rags yesterday:
"Balding told Sun Racing: “We were leaning towards France with him but it now looks like we’re going to go to York for the Juddmonte International on Wednesday.
“We’d actually made the decision before Enable was re-routed but then I guess it does make it even more attractive now.
“We’ve got him in great form. He’s got to prove himself at a mile-and-a-quarter, but we think the track will suit him better than Goodwood.
“The trip is obviously a slight question but given the way he’s finished his races you would have to think it will suit him.
“It’s a very strong race, we always knew it would be but he’s a Classic winner and even though we were beat at Goodwood he emerged with credit in the circumstances.”"
Hi all, enjoy reading everyones thoughts on the various threads. I'm a relatively small stakes man & most of my ante-post betting revolves round the Festival but one policy I've never used but can see is practised by some members is to boost their ante-post books by combining their Festival selections with another unrelated event (one regularly used I've seen is Trump to win the US election). Whilst I can see the benefits I'm intrigued as to how you would react if the first part loses - just take it on the chin & re-bet the horse? Do you when placing the original bet back your ante-post horse singly as well to cover the potential loss of the double (& as such missing the earlier ante-post price)? Would be interested to receive any thoughts and advice! Good luck all.
Personally I only double up with a non-festival event to get the value, just an example Chacun pour soi is 5/1 Fav for the Champion Chase, if he turned up on the day 5/1 could be value in itself but if I double it up now with what I feel is a pretty sure fire evens shot for something else I’ve then got double the price, and also I mainly use free bets for these doubles, but if it was to be a cash stake and the first leg loses then it just goes down as a loser for me, I wouldn’t go backing the single after as your defeating the objective of finding the value, and of course that is completely dependent on what you feel is a value bet, we are all different in that aspect....
Hi all, enjoy reading everyones thoughts on the various threads. I'm a relatively small stakes man & most of my ante-post betting revolves round the Festival but one policy I've never used but can see is practised by some members is to boost their ante-post books by combining their Festival selections with another unrelated event (one regularly used I've seen is Trump to win the US election). Whilst I can see the benefits I'm intrigued as to how you would react if the first part loses - just take it on the chin & re-bet the horse? Do you when placing the original bet back your ante-post horse singly as well to cover the potential loss of the double (& as such missing the earlier ante-post price)? Would be interested to receive any thoughts and advice! Good luck all.
Not the smartest bets to make IMO.
As mentioned previously.
Some reasons why.
1 - Doubles are statistically worse than placing 2 singles.
furthermore.
If the first part is such a certainty, then back it anyway.
If the second part is deemed a good bet, or value bet, then back it anyway.
If the first part loses, the vast majority will find it difficult not to back the second leg anyway.
In the majority of these type of bets the second selection is considered to be poor value.
Average case scenario (probably 50% of the time) if the first selection at even money loses.
Is that you end up staking more money on an antepost bet that you deemed poor value in the first place.
And if it turns out you were right, ans it is available at a bigger price later in the season, or never gives you a run for your money anyway.
To be honest, I don't see the Trump bets as roll-ups but more an ante-post double.
For me, a roll-up would be using an event that has a mature market and takes place very soon. Trump was around even money when most bets were struck and he's now out to 7/5 due to circumstances that could not be easily foreseen. There's still around 80 days to go so who knows where the market will go in that time.
Not a fan of roll-ups personally, but for those that are.....hard to see Battash losing on Friday........and likewise, Palace Pier was prob one poss missed today
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