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  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

    I wonder what the most they'd take on 6 or more is at 1/3

    That's picking money up off the floor isn't it?

    When did he last have less than 6?

    It was 2019, he had 4.
    You have to go back to 2014 before he only had 4 again (what a 4 though, Vautour, Quevega, Faugheen, Don Poli) haha

    Has hot pots in the:
    Mares Hurdle
    Supreme or Ballymore
    QMCC
    Turners
    Gold Cup
    Mares Chase

    Decent chances
    Bumper
    NH Chase
    Mares Novice Hurdle
    Triumph
    Albert Bartlett
    BANC

    That excludes all the handicap hurdles..... surely gets a handicap chase at some stage in his career too haha. State Man you never know!




    I know it's not as simple as just listing his favourites but he's just won all freaking G1s at the DRF, 1/3 looks like free money to me
    William Hill were quite clever with that market when they weren’t selling it as ‘6 or more winners’ but ‘to get to 100 Festival winners’, which people (despite WH pointing punters in the direction he had 94 in brackets) might have missed.

    It opened up at 2/5 as soon at was introduced, which I thought was bonkers, before settling on the 1/3, and now at 1/5 - probably the correct price. I too have, with Hills now being one of only 2 who will allow me, have gone big on this one.

    My only caveat, and I sincerely hope it doesn’t get me nervous with a few races of the festival left in a few weeks time,is that Mullins had an almighty battalion last year too, just like this year, and he only managed 6 with 3 races to spare.

    All the talk about 10+ winners is all fine looking at his battalion - but winning 10 out of 28 with a strike rate of over 35% at the festival would still be a very, very tough assignment.

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    • Originally posted by Bollinger View Post

      William Hill were quite clever with that market when they weren’t selling it as ‘6 or more winners’ but ‘to get to 100 Festival winners’, which people (despite WH pointing punters in the direction he had 94 in brackets) might have missed.

      It opened up at 2/5 as soon at was introduced, which I thought was bonkers, before settling on the 1/3, and now at 1/5 - probably the correct price. I too have, with Hills now being one of only 2 who will allow me, have gone big on this one.

      My only caveat, and I sincerely hope it doesn’t get me nervous with a few races of the festival left in a few weeks time,is that Mullins had an almighty battalion last year too, just like this year, and he only managed 6 with 3 races to spare.

      All the talk about 10+ winners is all fine looking at his battalion - but winning 10 out of 28 with a strike rate of over 35% at the festival would still be a very, very tough assignment.
      I did nearly tag you when I posted originally this Bollinger - thinking it was right up your street.

      The Friday is probably when it will be settled, with 2 very solid favourites.

      I won't be sweating on it regardless as the amount won't make or break my week



      Interesting to hear whether you'd consider Mullins 6 winners at 1/3 a better bet than 1/3 NRNB on Consitution Hill?

      I thought about that whilst placing the bet and thinking about the stake

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      • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

        I did nearly tag you when I posted originally this Bollinger - thinking it was right up your street.

        The Friday is probably when it will be settled, with 2 very solid favourites.

        I won't be sweating on it regardless as the amount won't make or break my week



        Interesting to hear whether you'd consider Mullins 6 winners at 1/3 a better bet than 1/3 NRNB on Consitution Hill?

        I thought about that whilst placing the bet and thinking about the stake
        I’ve always liked the Mullins/ Elliott/ Whomever ‘amount of festival winners’ as it means you’ve got a Mullins (etc) horse in every race, regardless of any other personal selections.

        in terms of comparing your 1/3 odds on both those markets, I will have to confess (in a horrible case of aftertimimg, but it’s my money I’ve risked to lose months in advance, so I’m never bothered with the concept of aftertimimg) that I have a considerable amount on Con’ Hill at 6/4 from March of last year - a risk I was prepared to take amongst all the idle internet talk of him going chasing.
        So I’ve never really looked at his prices over the last 10 months and tried to assess his value - I’ve only looked every day to make sure he’s not injured!

        As an additional note to playing Con ‘Hill for Cheltenham this year - though PP have now removed it, and I’ll confess to having just a tiny amount on it (you can only have your eggs in so many baskets…..), the 5/4 double on him winning ‘24 & ‘25 Champ hurdles was realistically the only value way to play him in the near to medium future. Just my opinion, of course.

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        • Originally posted by Bollinger View Post

          I’ve always liked the Mullins/ Elliott/ Whomever ‘amount of festival winners’ as it means you’ve got a Mullins (etc) horse in every race, regardless of any other personal selections.

          in terms of comparing your 1/3 odds on both those markets, I will have to confess (in a horrible case of aftertimimg, but it’s my money I’ve risked to lose months in advance, so I’m never bothered with the concept of aftertimimg) that I have a considerable amount on Con’ Hill at 6/4 from March of last year - a risk I was prepared to take amongst all the idle internet talk of him going chasing.
          So I’ve never really looked at his prices over the last 10 months and tried to assess his value - I’ve only looked every day to make sure he’s not injured!

          As an additional note to playing Con ‘Hill for Cheltenham this year - though PP have now removed it, and I’ll confess to having just a tiny amount on it (you can only have your eggs in so many baskets…..), the 5/4 double on him winning ‘24 & ‘25 Champ hurdles was realistically the only value way to play him in the near to medium future. Just my opinion, of course.
          If I'm asking now which you think is a better bet at 1/3 though, what is your answer

          I posted here when I had my 25 points on Constitution Hill at Evens when it was very obvious he was staying hurdling and that doesn't impact my ability to make a decision so you should be able to as well

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          • Originally posted by Bollinger View Post

            I’ve always liked the Mullins/ Elliott/ Whomever ‘amount of festival winners’ as it means you’ve got a Mullins (etc) horse in every race, regardless of any other personal selections.

            in terms of comparing your 1/3 odds on both those markets, I will have to confess (in a horrible case of aftertimimg, but it’s my money I’ve risked to lose months in advance, so I’m never bothered with the concept of aftertimimg) that I have a considerable amount on Con’ Hill at 6/4 from March of last year - a risk I was prepared to take amongst all the idle internet talk of him going chasing.
            So I’ve never really looked at his prices over the last 10 months and tried to assess his value - I’ve only looked every day to make sure he’s not injured!

            As an additional note to playing Con ‘Hill for Cheltenham this year - though PP have now removed it, and I’ll confess to having just a tiny amount on it (you can only have your eggs in so many baskets…..), the 5/4 double on him winning ‘24 & ‘25 Champ hurdles was realistically the only value way to play him in the near to medium future. Just my opinion, of course.
            Interesting… can you expand on ‘idle’

            many thanks

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            • Fucking Concept !!

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              • ….PP;

                Ballyburn (Sup)/ Slade Steel (B&B) boosted 12-1

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                • ….BFSB free multiple this weekend continuing up to the Festival, they also offer a free footy bet.

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                  • …PP;

                    W Mullins train more winners than all other Irish trainers combined @ 8/11
                    Train more winners than all GB trainers combined @ evs.

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                    • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                      …PP;

                      W Mullins train more winners than all other Irish trainers combined @ 8/11
                      Train more winners than all GB trainers combined @ evs.
                      Wasn't the over/under for Mullins around 7 ?
                      which would suggest the evens on training more than GB puts their line at 7.5/8
                      So there's 13 left ?
                      Something doesn't add up....

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                      • Originally posted by Istabraq View Post

                        Wasn't the over/under for Mullins around 7 ?
                        which would suggest the evens on training more than GB puts their line at 7.5/8
                        So there's 13 left ?
                        Something doesn't add up....
                        ….was that for DRF?

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                        • Originally posted by Eggs View Post

                          ….was that for DRF?
                          Not sure.
                          Just seen 9 or more winners is 9/10, so suggests GB winners is around 10 so yes market is about right...

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                          • …Foden SOT for City tomorrow is evs with PP.

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                            • Lads bet 5 get 5
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                              • Originally posted by Eggs View Post
                                …Foden SOT for City tomorrow is evs with PP.
                                My lads a City fan so we're going to the game tomorrow. We'll be defending for 99 of the 100 minutes so I'll have to take all the City specials I can find so I have something to cheer!

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