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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    Yeah baby. Who's it going to be this week??
    Jeriko for me, trying to get him onside as everything else I've backed in the supreme ain't looking too good now !

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    • Originally posted by Ice View Post

      Jeriko for me, trying to get him onside as everything else I've backed in the supreme ain't looking too good now !
      Mystical Power at 8/1 might be where I go. There's no way I can start the week off without the Supreme winner. That would be just wrong.





      That said..........I did last year

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        Yeah baby. Who's it going to be this week??
        I have only started betting the handicaps within the last week. So used epic boost for The Changing Man in the Ultima.

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

          Agree it was a great price - how much could you actually get on?

          The amount of their specials you've had their pants down on I'm amazed if you can get anything on - I've lost 4 accounts with them and do less of these than you do
          Yes, you’re absolutely correct Kev, I can get very little on. Just enough to earn a double digit profit. Not all of my accounts are restricted, but SKYBet are most definitely the one that have kindly refused to play ball with me.

          But I’ve never felt betting is about ‘how much’ you make (for instance, you quoted how much I could ‘get on’ at 4/5) - I look at betting (specifically when gambling on odds on) as ‘what is your reward against your risk as specifically the % mark up on your staked money’. 80% in this instance felt a huge payback as interest on your capital, against the risk I was taking. Doesn’t matter if it’s a pound or a million staked - what is the interest in money you would earn back??

          The 4/7 that bet now (probably the correct price it should have been introduced at) is only paying at 57% back as opposed to 80% on any capital staked. For me, these margins are vitally important to maintain the edge.

          I still believe one of the biggest mistakes SKYBet made was 2 festivals ago (thankfully when I wasn’t restricted) when they introduced “Willie Mullins or Nicky Henderson to win the Supreme’ at 4/6.

          Yes, we never quite knew that one of the horses would be brilliant, but your 4/6 covered Con’ Hill, Jonbon, Dysart Dynamo (yep, joint fave with Con’ Hill that day!!, Kilcruit - who was a lurking dark horse then, and Bring on the Night……in a 9 horse race!!

          I do wonder 2 years later if that trader ever had a job to walk back into post Festival !!

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          • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

            Mystical Power at 8/1 might be where I go. There's no way I can start the week off without the Supreme winner. That would be just wrong.





            That said..........I did last year
            It takes the pressure off if you can start the week with the supreme winner but like you i failed last year and this year seems even trickier.

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

              Mystical Power at 8/1 might be where I go. There's no way I can start the week off without the Supreme winner. That would be just wrong.





              That said..........I did last year

              ….given your ‘any race’ strategy, a bit surprised you haven’t already got him in the book but I suppose it’s difficult to capture them all. Pity the a/r disappears with nrnb, but I might use the ‘double odds’ boost on the nrnb handicaps.
              Last edited by Eggs; 22 January 2024, 11:06 AM.

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              • I’m heavily restricted on my Sky account unfortunately - which also means I don’t check it often. However tidying up my spreadsheet over the weekend I did notice a 125/1 RAB for Ballyburn (any race), Marine Nationale (Arkle), and Ferns Lock (Foxhunters) placed pre restrictions.

                That looks ok now - thanks whoever put it up…

                …for the value loser

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                • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                  Mystical Power at 8/1 might be where I go. There's no way I can start the week off without the Supreme winner. That would be just wrong.





                  That said..........I did last year
                  I’ve went with Jade de Grugy for the mares novice, 16/1 looks decent value

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                  • Originally posted by Garrison Savannah View Post
                    I’m heavily restricted on my Sky account unfortunately - which also means I don’t check it often. However tidying up my spreadsheet over the weekend I did notice a 125/1 RAB for Ballyburn (any race), Marine Nationale (Arkle), and Ferns Lock (Foxhunters) placed pre restrictions.

                    That looks ok now - thanks whoever put it up…

                    …for the value loser
                    Has this been took down? Wouldn't mind a bit of it even with a short haircut. Cant see it now though. Nice one

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                    • Originally posted by Bollinger View Post

                      Yes, you’re absolutely correct Kev, I can get very little on. Just enough to earn a double digit profit. Not all of my accounts are restricted, but SKYBet are most definitely the one that have kindly refused to play ball with me.

                      But I’ve never felt betting is about ‘how much’ you make (for instance, you quoted how much I could ‘get on’ at 4/5) - I look at betting (specifically when gambling on odds on) as ‘what is your reward against your risk as specifically the % mark up on your staked money’. 80% in this instance felt a huge payback as interest on your capital, against the risk I was taking. Doesn’t matter if it’s a pound or a million staked - what is the interest in money you would earn back??

                      The 4/7 that bet now (probably the correct price it should have been introduced at) is only paying at 57% back as opposed to 80% on any capital staked. For me, these margins are vitally important to maintain the edge.

                      I still believe one of the biggest mistakes SKYBet made was 2 festivals ago (thankfully when I wasn’t restricted) when they introduced “Willie Mullins or Nicky Henderson to win the Supreme’ at 4/6.

                      Yes, we never quite knew that one of the horses would be brilliant, but your 4/6 covered Con’ Hill, Jonbon, Dysart Dynamo (yep, joint fave with Con’ Hill that day!!, Kilcruit - who was a lurking dark horse then, and Bring on the Night……in a 9 horse race!!

                      I do wonder 2 years later if that trader ever had a job to walk back into post Festival !!
                      My point is/was that when you have the edge, that is when you want to have as much as you can on.

                      It is frustrating. 80% of a 1 pound bet though isn't worth getting worked up over no matter how good the edge is. At some point you need a minimum to make to be worthwhile?



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                      • Originally posted by Eggs View Post


                        ….given your ‘any race’ strategy, a bit surprised you haven’t already got him in the book but I suppose it’s difficult to capture them all. Pity the a/r disappears with nrnb, but I might use the ‘double odds’ boost on the nrnb handicaps.
                        Was going to do him after he won in the summer but was put off by the 'cant be winning in March when he's won in July' comments. Should have stuck to my guns as I usually do. Stupid of me.Ill get him on board somehow though even if it's for peanuts. Nothing like having the winner in the opening race. Sets up the day beautifully.

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                        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                          My point is/was that when you have the edge, that is when you want to have as much as you can on.

                          It is frustrating. 80% of a 1 pound bet though isn't worth getting worked up over no matter how good the edge is. At some point you need a minimum to make to be worthwhile?


                          …….and I did get ‘as much as I could’ on!

                          Just a tiny shame it’s not as much as I might have been able to have done 24 months previous.

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                          • Originally posted by somer1 View Post
                            Got my 1st and last new Skybet club offer in me box this morning (2 x £2.50 build a bet things) So if anyone is like me and wont be spending £0 a week to get the offer how about we all put the same build a bet on?
                            As im shit at them i will follow whats put up
                            I think your revenge play is to qualify every week with non runners at the festival in the NRNB races.

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                            • Originally posted by somer1 View Post
                              Got my 1st and last new Skybet club offer in me box this morning (2 x £2.50 build a bet things) So if anyone is like me and wont be spending £0 a week to get the offer how about we all put the same build a bet on?
                              As im shit at them i will follow whats put up
                              Be careful with these mate, as they have expiry dates of a week, unlike the previous freebets

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                              • Originally posted by Joleg View Post

                                Be careful with these mate, as they have expiry dates of a week, unlike the previous freebets
                                The account is basically getting the axe now. Only used to get my 25 then 30 back for the free bet. Only going to use it now for roll ups on any race horses.

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