Mares Hurdle 2021

[Big Bucks]

Would there be any chance she goes for Champion Hurdle? Or has something been said that she will stick to mares?

[Kevloaf]

7/2 for an unbeaten 6/7 year old mare is value. Even this far away.

Her only rival will be 10 years old and could even go chasing at Cheltenham. Although more likely line up here again I'd reckon.

Yeah I've just backed her at 7/2 with the cashout option.

It's a two horse race that could easily be a one horse race.

Unless we get something from the clouds but I'd feel confident I could get that covered in good time.

Would there be any chance she goes for Champion Hurdle? Or has something been said that she will stick to mares?

Yeah, it's a fair point, there must be a chance.

I'd consider it unlikely myself given she didn't do it this year when it looked a weak race on paper...

Then again, I considered it unlikely she wouldn't be going over fences so what do I know

[Kautostar]

I don’t see any reason why she would go for the champion hurdle this season after they ducked it last season. This season looks a better renewal at this stage. TWAR 3/1 seems fair enough though for the sake of a point difference

[Kevloaf]

I don’t see any reason why she would go for the champion hurdle this season after they ducked it last season. This season looks a better renewal at this stage. TWAR 3/1 seems fair enough though for the sake of a point difference

I'd prefer to be able to cash out at 7/2 (Mares) than take 3/1 (Any) without it.

She's incredibly unlikely to be sub 3/1 for the Champion Hurdle even if takin her chance, where I agree with you, she is not that likely to take in.

[Kautostar]

The 3/1 for the champion hurdle is just insurance in the unlikely event that happens so imo is worth the half a point difference of TWAR. If they do switch you’re on at bad value but I’d be 99% confident it’ll be the mares hurdle out of the two. I get the cash out side of things but it always concerns me with the more high profile horses that they will be quicker off the mark to pull the plug and therefore you get left with a nr

[Eggs]

....in light of the Honeysuckle ‘news’ I had a quick look at Sky RaBs to see if any might offer more value;

Easywork/Honeysuckle win a/r 40-1
Bob Ollinger/Honeysuckle win a/r 40-1
Honeysuckle w MH: Envoi Allen w a/r: LostinTranslation place GC 40-1
Chacun: Honeysuckle: Shishkin w a/r 66-1
Honeysuckle MH: ABP GC: Envoi a/r all to win 80-1
Gypsy Island: Honeysuckle: BDD win a/r 125-1
Ferny: Appreciate: Honeysuckle w a/r 125-1
Goshen: Shishkin: Envoi: Honeysuckle w a/r 200-1.

[Lobos]

That's a shocker. Personally think they'll aim Churdle and slip back into Mares should it not go to plan. Benie now looks an outstanding bet at 14/1 for Mares Chase. That can't last. Penalty kick ?

[Kevloaf]

That's a shocker. Personally think they'll aim Churdle and slip back into Mares should it not go to plan. Benie now looks an outstanding bet at 14/1 for Mares Chase. That can't last. Penalty kick ?

It's got to be a consideration hasn't it.

I thought the related double was worth a little tickle at those current prices.

I'd still be wary of parting with cash on Benie's target. You can easily make a case for the Mares Hurdle, Stayers Hurdle and Mares Chase.

[Lobos]

May be more tempting now for PTKO to go Mares Chase route

[nortonscoin200]

....in light of the Honeysuckle ‘news’ I had a quick look at Sky RaBs to see if any might offer more value;

Easywork/Honeysuckle win a/r 40-1
Bob Ollinger/Honeysuckle win a/r 40-1
Honeysuckle w MH: Envoi Allen w a/r: LostinTranslation place GC 40-1
Chacun: Honeysuckle: Shishkin w a/r 66-1
Honeysuckle MH: ABP GC: Envoi a/r all to win 80-1
Gypsy Island: Honeysuckle: BDD win a/r 125-1
Ferny: Appreciate: Honeysuckle w a/r 125-1
Goshen: Shishkin: Envoi: Honeysuckle w a/r 200-1.

Nice one Eggs - invested in a couple of those....Honeysuckle and Bob Olinger TWAR at 40-1 and the ABP, Envoi, Honeysuckle combo at 80-1.

Also good news for Happy Diva fans - one less star turn to beat in the Mares Chase by the look of it.

[Hardy Eustace]

I personally think it’s too late in the day for BDD to revert back over fences. For me, I think this makes her more likely to contest the stayers. It’s not a particularly strong division and her form is arguably strongest at 3
Miles. But what do I know!

[Kevloaf]

I personally think it’s too late in the day for BDD to revert back over fences. For me, I think this makes her more likely to contest the stayers. It’s not a particularly strong division and her form is arguably strongest at 3
Miles. But what do I know!

Perhaps, although this Mares Chase was never an option before..... if they committed to it with her, she could mix between hurdles and fences and she would without a doubt go off favourite wouldn't she on all her known ability?



I think they'll be taking it VERY seriously.... the Stayers will be a harder task, the Mares Hurdle now seems a match up that they may be confident in, but when Salsaretta is ante post fav, this becomes a very appealing option for a horse you know is well clear of Salsaretta?

[nortonscoin200]

Perhaps, although this Mares Chase was never an option before..... if they committed to it with her, she could mix between hurdles and fences and she would without a doubt go off favourite wouldn't she on all her known ability?



I think they'll be taking it VERY seriously.... the Stayers will be a harder task, the Mares Hurdle now seems a match up that they may be confident in, but when Salsaretta is ante post fav, this becomes a very appealing option for a horse you know is well clear of Salsaretta?

Would Rich Ricci want Salsaretta and Benie taking each other on in the same race?

[Kevloaf]

Would Rich Ricci want Salsaretta and Benie taking each other on in the same race?

Multiple examples of Ricci having runners in the same race.




I can't imagine Salsaretta having any impact at all on where Benie Des Dieux runs to be honest, thery're in completely different leagues.


Salsaretta is a pathetic priced favourite for the Mares Chase and Benie would be 1/10 to beat her, and rightly so.



Just looking, Salsaretta is currently rated 1lb higher than BDD over fences.... imagine if they priced her up as favourite.... I think that'd be my biggest match bet of all time.... in this mythical situation that I'm now engrossed in.

[Hardy Eustace]

Perhaps, although this Mares Chase was never an option before..... if they committed to it with her, she could mix between hurdles and fences and she would without a doubt go off favourite wouldn't she on all her known ability?



I think they'll be taking it VERY seriously.... the Stayers will be a harder task, the Mares Hurdle now seems a match up that they may be confident in, but when Salsaretta is ante post fav, this becomes a very appealing option for a horse you know is well clear of Salsaretta?

You’re absolutely right, the stayers would be a harder race than the mares. The two issues are do we really know how good BDD is over fences? Is she actually as good as she is over hurdles? The second issue is she’ll be 10 and going back over fences does increase the risk of her getting injured and would they take that risk? They may do. They’re sporting enough to send faugheen over fences at 12 but he wasn’t a mare. But they may not - if she was mine I wouldn’t take the risk.