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  • Originally posted by PresentingPercy88 View Post

    You cam blame the Catholic church and their ancient system of calculating Easter weekend..
    And of course Cheltenham should start the 2nd Tuesday of March on the 9th except when St Patrick's day fits in a week later.

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      Originally posted by Lobos View Post
      Third Wind pays a massive compliment to last year's Pertempts form there.
      Yeah, agree there. Shall be looking to add the the winner and/or the runner up to the book

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      • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
        Gordon Elliott, trainer of Fury Road
        Fury Road can be forgiven his run at Leopardstown over Christmas as he wasn't quite one hundred per cent. He seems to be much better at home and we're looking forward to running him. I'm half leaning towards skipping Cheltenham altogether with him and keeping him for Fairyhouse and Punchestown. We'll see how we get on here first.
        He has to be chatting shit here surely?

        That Albert Bartlett form, needs respecting and running on the back of?!

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

          He has to be chatting shit here surely?

          That Albert Bartlett form, needs respecting and running on the back of?!
          Let's hope so

          If he wins well tomorrow he surely has to run

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          • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

            Let's hope so

            If he wins well tomorrow he surely has to run
            His Albert Bartlett run, demands he runs!

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            • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post
              Gordon Elliott, trainer of Fury Road
              Fury Road can be forgiven his run at Leopardstown over Christmas as he wasn't quite one hundred per cent. He seems to be much better at home and we're looking forward to running him. I'm half leaning towards skipping Cheltenham altogether with him and keeping him for Fairyhouse and Punchestown. We'll see how we get on here first.
              That is very surprising indeed but surely talking bollocks!

              Not go chasing to stay over hurdlers and not go for the biggest staying race. Understand the races in Ireland are potentially worth as much but I’d be amazed were he not on the boat.

              May be different if hammered today of course.

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              • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

                He has to be chatting shit here surely?

                That Albert Bartlett form, needs respecting and running on the back of?!
                If he wins today the O Leary's will probably just say he is going and that will be that.

                Can see why Elliot might want to keep him at home as he has a very strong hand with SDB and The Storyteller who has a much more likely chance of winning than his 20/1 currently suggests. I know he wanted to keep Battle Over Doyen at home but he was made run him even after a fall last year. Can people think of many examples of Gigginstown keeping horses at home when they would have a good chance in a Grade 1 at Cheltenham? Could be plenty haven't really thought thought it for that long

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                • The only suitable race at Fairyhouse is the grade 2 2m4f race. Are they really going to throw away a chance at a grade 1 at Cheltenham for that? Gordon may have other horses for this but he's Gigginstowns best chance in this race.

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                  • I've just placed a bet on Fury Road for the Stayers with Ladbrokes at 16/1 (boosted to 18s) NRMB. If he wins today surely he goes Stayers and will be shorter than 18/1, if he loses he could potentially go to Coral Cup, or on Elliott's latest comments not travel over, in which case it would be money back anyway. The AB form from last season looks very good form and there should be more to come.

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                    • Looking at SW’s great work in the Irish racing page makes it even more strange Gordon would keep Fury Road for Fairyhouse as there doesn’t seem to be an equivalent race

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                      • If Fury Road does skip Cheltenham then I imagine it's very much a Gigginstown led decision myself.
                        They've made it public how it's not a race they particularly target.
                        And though they tend to have a runner most years (in 5 of the last 7 renewals), odds of

                        7/1, 25/1, 8/1, 33/1, 7/1, 50/1, 14/1

                        Show that it's often been with a horse making up the numbers.
                        I'd argue only Alpha des Obeaux really had the race targeted from the offset and went into the race with a really genuine chance albeit against a monster in Thistlecrack.

                        Would make the decision to stay over hurdles for the season all the more baffling though.

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                        • I'm sure i read something months ago that they were staying over hurdles and targeting the stayers hurdle.

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                          • I think the 50/1 NRNB for Beacon Edge has a potentially nice angle to it.

                            If he beats Fury Road today, which he easily could, as he's rated 4 lbs higher yet is getting 2 lbs, would it influence the owners?

                            Beacon Edge has never tried 3 miles, totally unexposed at the trip, so he's not going to collapse in price by any stretch, but if he won today, does he go there?

                            It's pretty much no risk, because if beaten today, the chances they then send him is tiny.

                            It's probably not likely that he ran in it even if he won today, but as he's up against the owners 'best dart' at this stage, it has to be worth considering?

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                            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                              I think the 50/1 NRNB for Beacon Edge has a potentially nice angle to it.

                              If he beats Fury Road today, which he easily could, as he's rated 4 lbs higher yet is getting 2 lbs, would it influence the owners?

                              Beacon Edge has never tried 3 miles, totally unexposed at the trip, so he's not going to collapse in price by any stretch, but if he won today, does he go there?

                              It's pretty much no risk, because if beaten today, the chances they then send him is tiny.

                              It's probably not likely that he ran in it even if he won today, but as he's up against the owners 'best dart' at this stage, it has to be worth considering?

                              As someone backed Beacon Edge for any race, and had given up hope.... I'm pleased to see someone actually making a case for him.
                              Interesting take, and pointer for those wanting to take advantage of NRNB and his run today.

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                              • Well... nice run there. Head down, battled on to win
                                Stayers please

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