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Stayers Hurdle 2021
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Originally posted by charlie View Post
We all pretty much concluded post race that McFabulous didn't stay so in my mind barring a ludicrously strong performance and finish up that hill, the Rekeel changes very little.
The Newbury race may have been messy but he's travelled into it like a dream, match fit, and found sweet FA. There is little to no chance that hill would see him to better effect, IMO.
He's one to forget IMO
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View PostMcFabulous to win the Relkeel, shorten dramatically to take a big chuck out of the Stayers Hurdle market, get smashed in as Lobos and Quevega get their few points on .... and he folds before the last on the day. Perfect.
Non stayer, clear as day relative to the two proper stayers that beat him. He's a good enough horse on ability not to get disgraced but I can't see why anyone at all could even make the case for him reversing the form back at 3m?
I'll dangle the carrot ready to get nibbled .... I cannot fathom how anyone could fancy him for a Stayers Hurdle.
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I certainly won't be backing him again.
I just would give him another chance. And especially not label him a non stayer on the one performance.
It was a big step up the last day, and he may improve and learn. He's clearly not at the front 2's level just yet.
Friday will be a big step forward should he win on the likely ground.
However, I'm doubtful of that myself.
And can see myself cashing out.
I'd much prefer Thomas Darby to show his best form, and outstay them all on the ground in a true run race. Or Indefatigible !
Trainer will probably pull him (TD) out.
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Originally posted by Lobos View Post
Don't agree Charlie. No way we can conclude from the Newbury race that he didn't stay. It was far to messy and they didn't start racing until 2 miles in. He deserves another chance at the distance.
I don't understand what's changed just because he's running in the Rekeel?
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Originally posted by charlie View Post
Post Newbury you, along with I, were fairly adamant he didn't stay, you said Nicholls was clutching at straws and the said line pretty much put through him on your list (#654).
I don't understand what's changed just because he's running in the Rekeel?
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Originally posted by Kevloaf View PostMcFabulous to win the Relkeel, shorten dramatically to take a big chuck out of the Stayers Hurdle market, get smashed in as Lobos and Quevega get their few points on .... and he folds before the last on the day. Perfect.
Non stayer, clear as day relative to the two proper stayers that beat him. He's a good enough horse on ability not to get disgraced but I can't see why anyone at all could even make the case for him reversing the form back at 3m?
I'll dangle the carrot ready to get nibbled .... I cannot fathom how anyone could fancy him for a Stayers Hurdle.
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Nicholls clearly rewatched the race and backtracked pretty quickly about him going for the Cleeve noting he didn't believe he properly stayed the trip. Relkeel, National Spirit and Aintree Hurdle would be where I'd expect him to be campaigned for the season now before going chasing.
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Can see Sire Du Berlais getting beat today and winning at Cheltenham. A bit like Kettle, Leopardstown is not his course ( beaten heavily twice he's ran there) . For any that's not on
him already, it could be worth waiting until after today to get a bigger price for March. If he wins today, I wouldn't expect him to go that much shorter in view of the strength of both Paisley and Thyme Hill in the market.
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Originally posted by Lobos View PostCan see Sire Du Berlais getting beat today and winning at Cheltenham. A bit like Kettle, Leopardstown is not his course ( beaten heavily twice he's ran there) . For any that's not on
him already, it could be worth waiting until after today to get a bigger price for March. If he wins today, I wouldn't expect him to go that much shorter in view of the strength of both Paisley and Thyme Hill in the market.
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