Stayers Hurdle 2021

[Priceiskey]

Yes Saturday will tell us a lot more. It’s a gut check for Mcfabulous as he hasn’t come of the bit for three runs and I’d like to see what he’s got when he has to dig deep. Unless your Thistlecrack you can’t win a stayers on the bridle.

[Kevloaf]

Yes Saturday will tell us a lot more. It’s a gut check for Mcfabulous as he hasn’t come of the bit for three runs and I’d like to see what he’s got when he has to dig deep. Unless your Thistlecrack you can’t win a stayers on the bridle.

Going to de-rail this a bit, but how good was Thistlecrack that year. What a horse. He'd have walloped Big Bucks

[charlie]

Going to de-rail this a bit, but how good was Thistlecrack that year. What a horse. He'd have walloped Big Bucks

He was ridiculously good. I just remember everyone on track being completely blown away by the performance and rightly so. It was the definition of winning on the complete snaff

[Might_Bite]

It's a tricky market at the moment. As has been said the winner of the long distance will emerge as a clear fave for the race.

Here's my thoughts, for the little they're worth...

Thyme Hill
I've got Thyme Hill well covered at nicer prices and luckily don't have to worry about him. I just hope he runs a good race. Has hobbs said he will come straight here? It's a hot race to start his campaign off in and his ponies havn't been looking brilliant first time up, so i'd be a little nervous for him.

Paisley Park
I missed the 10/1 apres festival prices on paisley and I'm not sure I can bring myself to go in on paisley park at 6-7/1 for the stayer's given his last performance. I'd like to see him out and well. However, that said, if he does come out well and wins he's going to be back into ~7/2 for the race. Maybe, the wiser play for those of us without him onside would maybe be to take the 15/8 and roll over if he wins and if he doesn't its hard to see him win in march with improving horses coming through the ranks. I'd be worried that he's not as far clear of others in the division as everyone thinks and past efforts may be beginning to take their toll.

Mcfabulous
He did look impressive at chepstow although the form hasn't exactly stood up so its hard to have a decent guage on him. Nicholls seems fairly bullish about his chances and seems to like him. The fact he has had a prep aswell when others are going to be coming here first time makes me more tempted to take the 12/1 on him.

Lisnagar Oscar
Sorry lads, not interested in this chap. I do blieve SDB wouldve beaten him if in the stayers and i think hes a decent handicapper at best and beat a decent handicapper in RONALD PUMP in the stayers. I think that race last festival was a bit rubbish.
Prepared to look like a muppet if he pisses in. NOT CONVINCED.

Really interested to hear how other people may play this race with the race coming up friday. And if anyone can make a good point for others in the race (Honest Vic etc).

[Lobos]

What with the Long Walk (Distance) Hurdle, the Hattons Grace and the Royal Bond , the markets are in for some massive shake up this weekend. Better get your bets in if you already haven't and hold onto your hats !!

[jonthehammer]

11/1 Paisley to win Long Distance and this - Hills

[Might_Bite]

Assuming theres 7/2 Stayers after a paisley win it works out marginally better to take the 15/8 Hills now and then reback. It also gives you slightly more flexibility.

[Eggs]

....Hills are 14-1 for McFabulous to win at Newbury this week & the Stayers.

[Lobos]

It's a tricky market at the moment. As has been said the winner of the long distance will emerge as a clear fave for the race.

Here's my thoughts, for the little they're worth...

Thyme Hill
I've got Thyme Hill well covered at nicer prices and luckily don't have to worry about him. I just hope he runs a good race. Has hobbs said he will come straight here? It's a hot race to start his campaign off in and his ponies havn't been looking brilliant first time up, so i'd be a little nervous for him.

Paisley Park
I missed the 10/1 apres festival prices on paisley and I'm not sure I can bring myself to go in on paisley park at 6-7/1 for the stayer's given his last performance. I'd like to see him out and well. However, that said, if he does come out well and wins he's going to be back into ~7/2 for the race. Maybe, the wiser play for those of us without him onside would maybe be to take the 15/8 and roll over if he wins and if he doesn't its hard to see him win in march with improving horses coming through the ranks. I'd be worried that he's not as far clear of others in the division as everyone thinks and past efforts may be beginning to take their toll.

Mcfabulous
He did look impressive at chepstow although the form hasn't exactly stood up so its hard to have a decent guage on him. Nicholls seems fairly bullish about his chances and seems to like him. The fact he has had a prep aswell when others are going to be coming here first time makes me more tempted to take the 12/1 on him.

Lisnagar Oscar
Sorry lads, not interested in this chap. I do blieve SDB wouldve beaten him if in the stayers and i think hes a decent handicapper at best and beat a decent handicapper in RONALD PUMP in the stayers. I think that race last festival was a bit rubbish.
Prepared to look like a muppet if he pisses in. NOT CONVINCED.

Really interested to hear how other people may play this race with the race coming up friday. And if anyone can make a good point for others in the race (Honest Vic etc).

Not done Last year's winner as agree with you that he was a good winner of a poor race. Fell into his hands. Not backed PP as I just think he'll find 2 or 3 ahead of him this year plus I don't like punting on horses with past problems. I've backed SDB, Mcfabulous, Thyme Hill, Fury Road and Main Fact. Personally think I'll have the winner amongst them.........unless Benie runs in the race in which case she would bolt up !

[Kevloaf]

It's a tricky market at the moment. As has been said the winner of the long distance will emerge as a clear fave for the race.

Here's my thoughts, for the little they're worth...

Thyme Hill
I've got Thyme Hill well covered at nicer prices and luckily don't have to worry about him. I just hope he runs a good race. Has hobbs said he will come straight here? It's a hot race to start his campaign off in and his ponies havn't been looking brilliant first time up, so i'd be a little nervous for him.

Paisley Park
I missed the 10/1 apres festival prices on paisley and I'm not sure I can bring myself to go in on paisley park at 6-7/1 for the stayer's given his last performance. I'd like to see him out and well. However, that said, if he does come out well and wins he's going to be back into ~7/2 for the race. Maybe, the wiser play for those of us without him onside would maybe be to take the 15/8 and roll over if he wins and if he doesn't its hard to see him win in march with improving horses coming through the ranks. I'd be worried that he's not as far clear of others in the division as everyone thinks and past efforts may be beginning to take their toll.

Mcfabulous
He did look impressive at chepstow although the form hasn't exactly stood up so its hard to have a decent guage on him. Nicholls seems fairly bullish about his chances and seems to like him. The fact he has had a prep aswell when others are going to be coming here first time makes me more tempted to take the 12/1 on him.

Lisnagar Oscar
Sorry lads, not interested in this chap. I do blieve SDB wouldve beaten him if in the stayers and i think hes a decent handicapper at best and beat a decent handicapper in RONALD PUMP in the stayers. I think that race last festival was a bit rubbish.
Prepared to look like a muppet if he pisses in. NOT CONVINCED.

Really interested to hear how other people may play this race with the race coming up friday. And if anyone can make a good point for others in the race (Honest Vic etc).

I might end up backing McFabulous in the special at 14/1 (as even though it's not much bigger than the 12/1) as I would say if beaten he has no chance of winning it, as Nicholls said he'll go chasing if he doesn't?


He's actually my only gap - as I took 10s for Paisley Park, 25/1 for Lisnager Oscar and Thyme Hill at whatever he was a while ago.

That probably doesn't help you, but McFab is possibly how I'll play the race.


I don't think Paisley Park getting beaten means he 'can't win the Stayers' as he's a former winner, but he'll likely get pushed back to 10/1 and you could re-assess.


Lisnager Oscar is a strange one, as his Stayers win is a bit of a freak result. His overall profile does make him easy to ignore, although if he wins people will feel a bit silly that the Stayers Winner has gone off 4th fav in an 'easier' race? Don't think I'll back him though

[Might_Bite]

Tend to agree with you on this one Kev, apart from Mcfabulous and Main Fact my bets look the same. Mcfab is the one I want to get on board before the weekend. Main Fact i don't feel the need to make a move on just yet I'd rather wait and see entries with his prices settling at 25/1.

[Kevloaf]

Tend to agree with you on this one Kev, apart from Mcfabulous and Main Fact my bets look the same. Mcfab is the one I want to get on board before the weekend. Main Fact i don't feel the need to make a move on just yet I'd rather wait and see entries with his prices settling at 25/1.

Main Fact I'd gamble on being a similar price NRNB, so I agree with you there.

I didn't find McFabulous was as good as had been made out, however, it's not like he would need to be Thistlecrack or Big Bucks to win this race.

If I back him, it'll be a defensive move.... I do like the fact he's either win or bust though.


It did even cross my mind to back a different horse to win on Friday with McFabulous for the RSA/NH Chase, but not really looked yet.

[Might_Bite]

It did even cross my mind to back a different horse to win on Friday with McFabulous for the RSA/NH Chase, but not really looked yet.

Was just looking for a price for the RSA on McFAB. Couldn't see him priced up on any bookies or the exchanges.

[Kevloaf]

Was just looking for a price for the RSA on McFAB. Couldn't see him priced up on any bookies or the exchanges.

Might be worth requesting (anyone)?..... hadn't looked in to it myself in detail, was just a thought that crossed my mind - I like these related doubles where the result of one horse forces one to another route... like Cyrname and Altior last year, when if Cyrname beat Altior it almost certainly meant Altior would cease the "up-in-trip" experiment and run in the QMCC. Didn't happen in the end but was still a clever bet even if I say so myself

[Altior]

Going to de-rail this a bit, but how good was Thistlecrack that year. What a horse. He'd have walloped Big Bucks

Still boggles me how he was still avaliable at even money on the day.