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  • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

    Not sure I'd say he was beating them as entitled to in view of it being on the short side for him. He's much better over 3 miles and ran like that today being strongest at the line. Sounds like the owners of The Storyteller may go for the Gold Cup so I'd be wary of backing him for the Stayers without cashout.
    The Christmas entries will probably be made in a lot of races for The Storyteller, but Gordon has appeared to be itching to give him another 3M hurdles run, could be a run-off with SDB, and if he is beaten switch back to fences (Gordon has also said it could be ‘mix & match’ between the two.

    If he wants to know if he is Gold Cup horse he could run in the Savills at Christmas and/or the Irish Gold Cup at the DRF.
    That should put to bed the Gold Cup talk, when he is beaten by Minella Indo.
    "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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    • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post

      The Christmas entries will probably be made in a lot of races for The Storyteller, but Gordon has appeared to be itching to give him another 3M hurdles run, could be a run-off with SDB, and if he is beaten switch back to fences (Gordon has also said it could be ‘mix & match’ between the two.

      If he wants to know if he is Gold Cup horse he could run in the Savills at Christmas and/or the Irish Gold Cup at the DRF.
      That should put to bed the Gold Cup talk, when he is beaten by Minella Indo.
      I'm sure they already know The Storyteller is not a Gold Cup horse it's just that the owners would like a runner in the race and they don't come along very often. Can't blame them and the horse owes them nothing. He may take in the King George as well.

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      • Bacardys won todays race last year and I backed him at 40/1 for the Stayers Hurdle after it.

        I can't back Sire Du Berlias at 8/1.

        C&D form means he should be shorter than 40/1, but easy not to back him at single figures.

        Well done anyone on at BIG prices.



        He was very, very good IMO today, he's a huge player. When I reviewed the festival over summer I don't think I fancied him making the step up in grade but I wouldn't be able to dismiss him now at all unfortunately.

        I don't think he's ever been a really nice price for this, but he's better than I gave him credit for.

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        • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
          Bacardys won todays race last year and I backed him at 40/1 for the Stayers Hurdle after it.

          I can't back Sire Du Berlias at 8/1.

          C&D form means he should be shorter than 40/1, but easy not to back him at single figures.

          Well done anyone on at BIG prices.



          He was very, very good IMO today, he's a huge player. When I reviewed the festival over summer I don't think I fancied him making the step up in grade but I wouldn't be able to dismiss him now at all unfortunately.

          I don't think he's ever been a really nice price for this, but he's better than I gave him credit for.
          I agree about the shortish price for SDB from the outset. I backed him for this as long ago as 14th March and it was already as low as 25-1. My main rationale then was strong course form over hurdles and this being his only viable race target. He did look impressive today and maybe he doesn't need BG on his back to bring up a 3rd Festival succes.

          Are you not considering getting him on side through some roll-ups ?

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          • Originally posted by Nortons who View Post

            I agree about the shortish price for SDB from the outset. I backed him for this as long ago as 14th March and it was already as low as 25-1. My main rationale then was strong course form over hurdles and this being his only viable race target. He did look impressive today and maybe he doesn't need BG on his back to bring up a 3rd Festival succes.

            Are you not considering getting him on side through some roll-ups ?
            25/1 I'd have considered over the summer, but Lisnager Oscar was 25/1 when I put him up as the reigning Champion so I'm still a bit disgruntled by the prices he's been.


            No not tempted by the roll ups with him at the current price.... he's a single figure price that I don't think should be - any roll ups I've had on short prices are because I think they're the right price but not worth backing as singles (in terms of tying stakes up) this far out.

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            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post

              25/1 I'd have considered over the summer, but Lisnager Oscar was 25/1 when I put him up as the reigning Champion so I'm still a bit disgruntled by the prices he's been.


              No not tempted by the roll ups with him at the current price.... he's a single figure price that I don't think should be - any roll ups I've had on short prices are because I think they're the right price but not worth backing as singles (in terms of tying stakes up) this far out.
              Just back him on the day Kev when he's 7/4 fav

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              • Fury Road entered on Sunday at Punchestown, over 2m 5 1/2f. Looks like he has pretty much bugger all to beat though, but has to give weight to the field.

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                • Originally posted by ComplyOrDie View Post
                  Fury Road entered on Sunday at Punchestown, over 2m 5 1/2f. Looks like he has pretty much bugger all to beat though, but has to give weight to the field.
                  Do we see Fury Road's price shrinking much should he win tomorrow?

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                  • Originally posted by ryanh97 View Post

                    Do we see Fury Road's price shrinking much should he win tomorrow?
                    If he wins decently enough I think he’d be cut to 16’s. Seems like any excuse to slash a price then the bookies will
                    oblige.

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                    • He is massively overpriced when you look at Thyme Hill, so even being cut to 16s is still value imo

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                      • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
                        He is massively overpriced when you look at Thyme Hill, so even being cut to 16s is still value imo
                        I would agree with that

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                        • Originally posted by ryanh97 View Post

                          Do we see Fury Road's price shrinking much should he win tomorrow?
                          Yes! Bookies seem to be cutting every winner. I topped up on it again last night and might go in again this morning. I can see going down to around 12s.

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                          • Originally posted by Hurricane fly View Post
                            He is massively overpriced when you look at Thyme Hill, so even being cut to 16s is still value imo
                            Either that, or Thyme Hill is under priced currently.

                            TH was 16/1 for quite a while and is now best price 12/1 without running

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                            • When you look at how weak the division is it makes perfect sense for the AB 3/4th to be near the top of the market. I’d say THs price is due to most shrewdies getting on early and I’d imagine he is most bookies biggest liability.

                              What doesn’t make sense is for the 4th to be a lower price than the 3rd.

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                              • Decent from Fury then, fluffed the last and landed awkwardly but still got himself right to burn off Dewcup. Nice spin and he looks a major player in this to me.

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