Stayers Hurdle 2021

[Topofthegame2021]

I was reading an interesting piece on Mullins’ Lord Royal yesterday suggesting he could be a dark horse for the Stayers. I looked at the prices and whilst most firms were going 33/1, some were still posting 66/1 (PP offering 66/1 with cash out).

I don’t really know a lot about the horse apart from it won by 33L in a maiden hurdle.

Does anyone know anything about LR, and is there any substance to this price?

[Kevloaf]

I was reading an interesting piece on Mullins’ Lord Royal yesterday suggesting he could be a dark horse for the Stayers. I looked at the prices and whilst most firms were going 33/1, some were still posting 66/1 (PP offering 66/1 with cash out).

I don’t really know a lot about the horse apart from it won by 33L in a maiden hurdle.

Does anyone know anything about LR, and is there any substance to this price?

Simon Rowlands put him up in his timeform ante post piece and that was a good case.

https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/rowley/simon-rowlands-five-ante-post-bets-for-the-jumps-season-20102020

Lord Royal
Stayers' Hurdle (66/1)


Willie Mullins unleashed something special at Clonmel in January, when Lord Royal landed a two-and-a-half-mile maiden hurdle by 33 lengths. It was not just the margin of victory, over admittedly ordinary opposition, which impressed, but the overall time – much quicker than the other two hurdles at the distance on the card – and Lord Royal’s splits and striding.


He was around 32 lb faster overall than 131-rated Tiger Tap Tap and around a dozen lengths quicker in the final quarter of a mile, also. At the same time, he showed a remarkably relaxed and long stride, the kind that tends to be associated with horses who conserve their energy at marathon distances.


Lord Royal’s cadence dropped to 1.83 strides/second at one stage – about as low as jumpers go unless exhausted (which he certainly was not!) – but picked up to a still leisurely 2.00 strides/second as he charged merrily away from labouring rivals in the home straight. It follows that Lord Royal must have a stride of ground-devouring length to run as quickly as he did while turning over so slowly.


Unfortunately, he did not read the script next time – when turned over at odds on by the useful, and far more experienced, Run Wild Fred – but remained a possible for the Ballymore or Albert Bartlett at the Cheltenham Festival until late on, with his stable making it clear that they regarded him highly.


It is a very long way to go from defeat in a novice hurdle to success in a Stayers’ Hurdle, but the latter race is going through a somewhat fallow period (average winner’s rating in last four years of just 156) and we all have to start somewhere. Lord Royal is a monster price: it is up to him to prove himself the monster racehorse he hinted at that day at Clonmel.

[Topofthegame2021]

Simon Rowlands put him up in his timeform ante post piece and that was a good case.

https://www.timeform.com/horse-racing/features/rowley/simon-rowlands-five-ante-post-bets-for-the-jumps-season-20102020

Lord Royal
Stayers' Hurdle (66/1)


Willie Mullins unleashed something special at Clonmel in January, when Lord Royal landed a two-and-a-half-mile maiden hurdle by 33 lengths. It was not just the margin of victory, over admittedly ordinary opposition, which impressed, but the overall time – much quicker than the other two hurdles at the distance on the card – and Lord Royal’s splits and striding.


He was around 32 lb faster overall than 131-rated Tiger Tap Tap and around a dozen lengths quicker in the final quarter of a mile, also. At the same time, he showed a remarkably relaxed and long stride, the kind that tends to be associated with horses who conserve their energy at marathon distances.


Lord Royal’s cadence dropped to 1.83 strides/second at one stage – about as low as jumpers go unless exhausted (which he certainly was not!) – but picked up to a still leisurely 2.00 strides/second as he charged merrily away from labouring rivals in the home straight. It follows that Lord Royal must have a stride of ground-devouring length to run as quickly as he did while turning over so slowly.


Unfortunately, he did not read the script next time – when turned over at odds on by the useful, and far more experienced, Run Wild Fred – but remained a possible for the Ballymore or Albert Bartlett at the Cheltenham Festival until late on, with his stable making it clear that they regarded him highly.


It is a very long way to go from defeat in a novice hurdle to success in a Stayers’ Hurdle, but the latter race is going through a somewhat fallow period (average winner’s rating in last four years of just 156) and we all have to start somewhere. Lord Royal is a monster price: it is up to him to prove himself the monster racehorse he hinted at that day at Clonmel.

Thanks Kev, is he the kind of horse that you think would go novice chasing this season?

[Istabraq]

Yeah I read those comments and got interested too but although the analysis suggests he could be top class he needs to prove that against the best and being the cynical old git that I am I would not be one bit surprised to see a lukewarm campaign then unleashed on the Coral Cup or Pertemps...

[Kevloaf]

Thanks Kev, is he the kind of horse that you think would go novice chasing this season?

I can't recall any comments about him from last year. I did fancy him for Cheltenham and did back him (for what would have been the wrong race). I was blown away by him and thought he was being dismissed because of the connections slightly.

I'm hopeful the same would happen again this year in terms of price, and Ista is right below, he could easily end up in a handicap too.

I'll wait to see if he's mentioned in the stable tour, although on reflection taking 66/1 now with PP is tempting. I will in fact.

Yeah I read those comments and got interested too but although the analysis suggests he could be top class he needs to prove that against the best and being the cynical old git that I am I would not be one bit surprised to see a lukewarm campaign then unleashed on the Coral Cup or Pertemps...

[Hurdles or chasing]

Id say there is more chance he goes chasing. Looks to have the size and scope for it anyway. He is very inexperienced though. Ruby and Patrick both seemed very excited about the thoughts of him over a fence last year anyway if I remember correctly

[Hurdles or chasing]

Patrick on Lord Royal https://twitter.com/RacingTV/status/...UgzsKLA55ZlLnU

Ruby https://twitter.com/RacingTVi/status...UtJzXTgJRxrS7Q

I've already backed him for the RSA and NHC so hope that's the way they go. I guess with cash out its not too much of a risk and its a very big price for the sayers.

[The King Pimm]

If you’re looking for a big priced outsider I would be more inclined to take the 66/1 available for Thomas Darby who has already performed well at Cheltenham and being aimed at the Stayers than Lord Royal who might not get the trip and is a festival virgin.

[Hurdles or chasing]

Lord Royal will get the trip have very little doubt about that. Couldnt agree more with TD. Been at that price for a while and put up a few months ago by Quevega i think

[Lobos]

Lord Royal will get the trip have very little doubt about that. Very surprised TD has not been shortened from 66s. Been at that price for a while and put up a few months ago by Quevega i think

Yeah, I was expecting him to be cut dramatically after the whole of FJ got on him it seems. Looking forward to his comeback run.

[Lobos]

Topped up on Mcfabulous 1pt @ 12/1. Short but for a reason I feel. Imo he's the winner now. Noticed that Thyme Hill not declared for Saturday. Got him , Sire De Berlais and Thomas Darby as my 4 now after cashing out Monkfish.

[charlie]

Topped up on Mcfabulous 1pt @ 12/1. Short but for a reason I feel. Imo he's the winner now. Noticed that Thyme Hill not declared for Saturday. Got him , Sire De Berlais and Thomas Darby as my 4 now after cashing out Monkfish.

We haven't seen him in decent company, nor over 3m, and it's October. Calling him the winner now seems like madness, but at the same time I hope you are right nonetheless

[opatcho]

Crazy talk that, month away

This time last year when Paisley Park won first time out, I thought he was pretty much nailed to regain his title - didnt back him

Wayyyy too early to be napping horses for a race like the Stayers which can throw up some odd balls

[Lobos]

Crazy talk that, month away

This time last year when Paisley Park won first time out, I thought he was pretty much nailed to regain his title - didnt back him

Wayyyy too early to be napping horses for a race like the Stayers which can throw up some odd balls

It's never too early in my book to take an AP stance on something I feel really stands out regardless of where they have ran or the opposition. We really aren't that far off now. Less than 20 weeks and most horses will have 2 maybe 3 runs tops before the Fez.

[Lobos]

Do we expect the Stayers champion to win tomorrow??