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Stayers Hurdle 2021

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  • Hills still go 25/1 any race for him. 27s with a boost

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    • Originally posted by Arkle View Post
      I’m starting to question paisleys form to be honest beating a old faugheen & Sam spinner I know he’s won Cleeves etc think I’m going to backing against him
      I'd have to disagree with that I'm afraid Arkle. I think the Stayers Hurdle that PP won was a better one than last years where it was reported he underperformed due to suffering from a heart issue. I wouldn't be dismissing Faugheen as an old codger in PP's race as a year later, he won 2 G1s and came a close third at Cheltenham. I don't think Sam Spinner can be questioned either as he was favourite for the race in 2018 where many thought the jockey should have made more used of him. The jockey also mentioned afterwards that SS was still a big baby so you would have thought he had improved but still came second to PP in 2019. Bacardy's also came 6th beaten 22l in 2019 but managed 3rd this year beaten 5l by Lisnagar Oscar. Bacardy's may have improved massively but unlikely IMO as he is a year older than PP. There's also this year's Cleeve Hurdle. It would be a surprise to question this form where Paisley comfortably beat Lisnagar Oscar and Summerville Boy in what would have been just a prep race for him before defending the Stayers Hurdle.

      I'm really hoping that PP's issue was just a one off and that he will return as good as ever because if he does, he would still be clear favourite for next year IMO.

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      • ........unless Benie goes Stayers.

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        • There is always the possibility that the other PP might revert to hurdles. Having switched to Gordon Elliott maybe there will be a fresh review between connectiions around viable options. Presenting Percy already has a decent record over hurdles at Cheltenham and with such a hot looking GC, the Stayers might be a softer target ?

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          • I'd imagine if they are thinking about preparing Presenting Percy for Nationals Gordon will be working on getting his handicap mark down over fences Nortons.

            FWIW though I think he could potentially run a big race in the Stayers, and fits the profile of one coming back from fences that run well. It will definitely be discussed.
            Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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            • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
              ........unless Benie goes Stayers.
              I couldn't disagree with that! But I'm really wishing they go chasing with her as I've now managed to build up 0.75pts on her with freebets for the Mares Chase.

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              • Originally posted by YoungHustler View Post
                I couldn't disagree with that! But I'm really wishing they go chasing with her as I've now managed to build up 0.75pts on her with freebets for the Mares Chase.
                I'd be happy with that.

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                • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
                  I'd imagine if they are thinking about preparing Presenting Percy for Nationals Gordon will be working on getting his handicap mark down over fences Nortons.

                  FWIW though I think he could potentially run a big race in the Stayers, and fits the profile of one coming back from fences that run well. It will definitely be discussed.

                  You'd have to be hopeful of a decent NRNB price - I don't think it'll be the plan unless the actual plan is the Grand National. If that's the case he should be a fair enough price for the Stayers NRNB at some stage.



                  I don't think I even believe he's a good bet for anything, but I will be on him in whatever race he runs in, in March, if fit and well.
                  Last edited by Kevloaf; 10 September 2020, 07:09 PM.

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                  • Reading through the thread and talking about the stats..would they not point to Emitom? Seemed to be 1 paced turning in this year but 5 years old! A returning 6 year old to the same race with a better campaign (not a slog through the mud in haydock!) could be worth a go

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                    • That run at haydock in heavy ground was on the 15th february the same weekend alot of horses seemed to tuck themselves for the festival at ascot..was a very wet shitty weekend weather wise..and a 5 year old its quite an ask

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                      • Originally posted by Ray View Post
                        Reading through the thread and talking about the stats..would they not point to Emitom? Seemed to be 1 paced turning in this year but 5 years old! A returning 6 year old to the same race with a better campaign (not a slog through the mud in haydock!) could be worth a go
                        Emitom is going chasing the last I heard

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                        • He’ll be 7 next year Ray, but he was one I liked coming into last season.

                          The injury obviously didn’t help his chances to be honest. Suppose it will depend if they stay over hurdles which I think they will and have another crack at the stayers. Would be a slight worry they possibly bypass for aintree as his aintree novice hurdle run reads really well behind champ.

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                          • Originally posted by Kautostar View Post
                            Emitom is going chasing the last I heard
                            Has this been confirmed Kauto?

                            Can’t remember seeing this.

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                            • Yeah comments here..

                              He is only six and is maybe still a bit weak to get home properly in a race like that, but he has run very well and from my point of view the most exciting part is there is plenty more there. There is a lot to look forward to."
                              Although Emitom is up there among the best staying hurdlers in the country, Greatrex has not ruled out the possibility of switching him to fences next season.
                              He said: "With no Aintree and no overseas runners likely to be allowed at Punchestown, that is him done now for the season.
                              "We will see what happens when he comes back in as to whether we stay over hurdles or go novice chasing.
                              "He could be an extremely good chaser and that could help his jumping even more, it would give him more to look at."

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                              • Originally posted by Craigy14 View Post
                                Has this been confirmed Kauto?

                                Can’t remember seeing this.

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