Ryanair Chase 2021

[charlie]

I was going to absolutely slam that as "not tasty place potential" but I checked and it very much is tasty place potential. Works out 30/1 even ignoring the win part?!

Haha you know I wouldn't say that! Banging place potential. Just posted on my diary, place pays 50/1 with Slybet.

[Garrison Savannah]

No chance Energumene goes Marsh?

[charlie]

No chance Energumene goes Marsh?

Its a Mullins horse, could go anywhere but at this stage of the season its about predicting liklihood and just praying you are right!

[Carnage at Taunton]

Ok Charlie, you have talked me into the treble, on your head be it!!

[charlie]

Ok Charlie, you have talked me into the treble, on your head be it!!

haha its a fingers crossed place bet. Energumene winning on Sunday fairly important as 16/1 will probably half if all the runner currently entered take their place. The other two inc Melon are fairly self explanatory

[Kevloaf]

Haha you know I wouldn't say that! Banging place potential. Just posted on my diary, place pays 50/1 with Slybet.

Technically 25/1 then? If you're off the win part - which I assume is the point of these? (With the obvious ridiculous upside if they won)

[Carnage at Taunton]

Charlie, it’s the sort of bet I like, I’ve done a few for the festival, just the hard bit now..... one of them coming in!!

[Outlaw]

Technically 25/1 then? If you're off the win part - which I assume is the point of these? (With the obvious ridiculous upside if they won)

Sky go 16/16/10s, 365 go 20/14/12s (Engermune/Shan Blue/Melon
Sky basically 29s. 365 31s for those can get one or the other. I don't think they would offer 16s about all 3 placing which you would need to outweigh the place term(essentially 2x win stake vs 1w/1p for e/w) so its's an instance where the e/w play is probably favourable.

*Sorry for butting into the thread btw just had oddschecker up at the time.

[Kevloaf]

Sky go 16/16/10s, 365 go 20/14/12s (Engermune/Shan Blue/Melon
Sky basically 29s. 365 31s for those can get one or the other. I don't think they would offer 16s about all 3 placing which you would need to outweigh the place term(essentially 2x win stake vs 1w/1p for e/w) so its's an instance where the e/w play is probably favourable.

*Sorry for butting into the thread btw just had oddschecker up at the time.

Yeah I'd worked it out nearer to 'effectively' 30/1 myself for the places when I looked...

Still, I see the appeal

[Outlaw]

Yeah I'd worked it out nearer to 'effectively' 30/1 myself for the places when I looked...

Still, I see the appeal

Quick Math Happy birthday too btw, treat yourself to a couple of e/w accas

[Kevloaf]

How do people feel about Imperial Aura now...

A race ending error at fence 2, after looking an incredible jumper.

Will we see him out again soon?

Used to be a very popular trend, perhaps still is, that horses don't win after falling last time out?

[FinalFurlong91]

Wasn't on my list personally anyway at the price he was

Having only beaten Windsor avenue and itchy feet

real shame he fell today as had he given master tommytucker 6lbs and a beating that wouldve been by a good way his best run so far

[Spectre]

A race to write off I think.

A lazy unseat from Imperial Aura before the race had got going won't affect confidence.

The winner is very good when he jumps, but I'd be very surprised if Nicholls sent him to Cheltenham for the Ryanair. He'll win at Aintree with a clean round though.

Riders On The Storm is neither good enough, nor a Cheltenham horse.

Clondaw Castle is in no mans land with his rating.

I'd imagine by Monday most of us will have forgotten the race even took place!

[Imperial Commander]

Need to see what plans are next -with the fall being early, there's still time to get in another run soon if he comes out of this ok.

[Nortons who]

How do people feel about Imperial Aura now...

A race ending error at fence 2, after looking an incredible jumper.

Will we see him out again soon?

Used to be a very popular trend, perhaps still is, that horses don't win after falling last time out?

Yes a bit strange given his sound jumping previously and a bit similar to the Minella Indo fall. With both of them, its difficult to know how that impacts their confidence and whether some schooling gets them over it or are there longer lasting effects.

Going back to Imperial Aura, IMO that effectively rules out an attempt at the GC, unless they decide to enter him for the Cotswold Chase. Despite the fact a rein got caught round his front leg, he seemed to run round OK in the background and jumped a couple more fences and a hurdle but whether he needs another run at this stage is debatable. Personally I would think they would go straight to the Ryanair and put today behind them as just one of those things.