Queen Mother Champion Chase 2021

[Spectre]

I just don't like Nube Negra for this at all, so much so I have left him out of my book even as cover.

I know horses improve and mature at different speeds, but I just have this horse down as a flat track bully, and couldn't have him at Cheltenham at all.

In my mind he's Protektorat in reverse.

[Spectre]

I should add, that now I've stated that publicly it is sure to come and bite me in the arse!

[charlie]

Yeah, different side of the same coin but I have a 5 pts e/w bet on Min at 8/1 as I think he only runs if CPS doesn't and I'd have that as a stonking bet versus Politilogue

I take it that's NRNB? Yeh I'd have Min over Politilogue all day.

[mayo]

Harry Cobden to ride Politologue in Clarence House and QM

https://www.racingpost.com/news/late...n-chase/468989

Looks like Nube Negra is definitely doing QM now then

I like Harry Cobden but Skelton did seen to get a bit more out of Politologue.

[Kevloaf]

I take it that's NRNB? Yeh I'd have Min over Politilogue all day.

Yeah of course.

Would be an abysmal bet without NRNB concession.

[charlie]

Yeah of course.

Would be an abysmal bet without NRNB concession.

Yeh brain fart of a question. Great NRNB B

[charlie]

Ive added Waiting Patiently to win tomorrow and this @ 31/1 (Hills boost)

WP's first run last season was very very good after 250 days off, going down 1L to race fit DDS. Seasonal reappearance this year was equally impressive IMO. They seem a little bit tripless with him, but go back to 2m. I expect it to be a fast a furious race that will suit a horse that can stay on late, and WP fits the bill perfectly. He must have found 7L from 2nd last to line last year and may have won but for another furlong. I just don't think it's a particularly strong division and the race is there for the taking. CPS is unbackable at the current price IMO, and I'm half waiting for the 'ruled out of the season news' because he's like glass. Altior is probably gone at 2m, Politlogue is a very good horse without ever going beyond being very good. I think DDS will run admirably in defeat tomorrow and go Ryanair, and I think this market could be in for a bit of a shake up this weekend.

[Olliemagern]

Would the fact that this horse has only run once in its career after February not put you off? Would you not be better off just backing him To win Tomo and save the Pennys to back him on the day if he actually turns up? Cps is made of glass but this lad seems to be made like a chocolate fire guard? Is he really gunna be less than 7 or 8/1 if they all turn up?

[Quevega]

Ive added Waiting Patiently to win tomorrow and this @ 31/1 (Hills boost)

WP's first run last season was very very good after 250 days off, going down 1L to race fit DDS. Seasonal reappearance this year was equally impressive IMO. They seem a little bit tripless with him, but go back to 2m. I expect it to be a fast a furious race that will suit a horse that can stay on late, and WP fits the bill perfectly. He must have found 7L from 2nd last to line last year and may have won but for another furlong. I just don't think it's a particularly strong division and the race is there for the taking. CPS is unbackable at the current price IMO, and I'm half waiting for the 'ruled out of the season news' because he's like glass. Altior is probably gone at 2m, Politlogue is a very good horse without ever going beyond being very good. I think DDS will run admirably in defeat tomorrow and go Ryanair, and I think this market could be in for a bit of a shake up this weekend.

Think this is one where you may be best backing him to win tomorrow.
And also backing him NRNB 12-1 PP or BFSB.
assuming you have access to those bookies (I'm guessing you've not got many accounts ATM)

For example 1 unit at 5/2 = 3.5 units rolling on.
So put on the 3.5 units @ 12-1 before tomorrow's race = 45.5 unit return.

Worst case scenario is he don't win tomorrow and runs in the champion chase as a no hoper.
And you've blown 4.5pts on him.

Doubt Ruth would do that myself, and doubt she'd run there anyway, cos she's a tit.

So best case scenario is you get paid on the first bet if he wins tomorrow, and have to wait till Ruth doesn't declare him in March, cos the skies not blue enough or something like that.

edit - and the 33-1 is a shitty price.

[Istabraq]

Ive added Waiting Patiently to win tomorrow and this @ 31/1 (Hills boost)

Quevega 's numbers are right, but the other way to play it is back the 31/1 double and the 12/1 NRNB, if he wins tomorrow your 31/1 bet is looking OK and you can probably trade out of the 12/1 at a profit as he'll shorten for the win, I don't know what price he'll go but you may be able to trade out the 12/1 and end with a profit and free bet (at 31/1)

[FinalFurlong91]

Hes 16s nrnb with fred

[barizan]

I just don't like Nube Negra for this at all, so much so I have left him out of my book even as cover.

I know horses improve and mature at different speeds, but I just have this horse down as a flat track bully, and couldn't have him at Cheltenham at all.

In my mind he's Protektorat in reverse.

100%. He will win the Desert Orchid next year again. Kempton is a specialist track anyway, he could become unbeatable at times there.

[Kevloaf]

Hes 16s nrnb with fred

That's the way I played it.

For me, he either wins tomorrow and probably runs...
or doesn't win tomorrow and definitely won't....

16/1 fair price I think with the concession.

[Quevega]

Hes 16s nrnb with fred

even better, forgot about fred.

[FinalFurlong91]

That's the way I played it.

For me, he either wins tomorrow and probably runs...
or doesn't win tomorrow and definitely won't....

16/1 fair price I think with the concession.

Think he has a good chance tomorrow tbf

Looks plenty of pace in the race with duc des genievres, politologue and first flow

If they go too quick could set it up for him