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Still 3/1 365 11/4 pp so bookies not over the moon with it either.Comment
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Thought he looked big too, very happy with that. Thought cash back did ok too under constraint.Originally posted by Altior View PostComment
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Wasn't particularly impressed
But he got beat on reappearance last year so you'd expect him to improve hugely at ChristmasComment
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Thought was an impressive return given the condition he looked to be holding and the break he has had.
Jumping got better the further he went. For me the one they all have to beat come March.Last edited by Run4Home; 6 December 2020, 01:40 PM.Comment
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Job done for Chacun Pour Glass.Comment
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So, of the 2 milers we've see so far this season, who should be fav for the Champion Chase based on what they've shown ? For me it has to be Politilouge.Comment
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Until Altior is beat over 2 miles, I see no reason why he shouldn't be favourite. 7/1 on offer is a cracking betComment
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Think someone mentioned that Allmankinds time was faster than politilogue, unless you think allmankind is a superstar does this not put you off? Sounded from Paul nicholls that you was pretty trained for the race as well so not sure how much improvement he will make for fitness.Originally posted by Lobos View PostComment
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Next to nothing in it especially when factoring weight into it. AMK when as quick as he could from A to B the tingle a bit more tactical.Originally posted by sprintersacren View Post
2018 DD was considerably faster than Altior/UDS.
As always depends on various things but Rowlands will have the splits and circuits no doubt in a couple of days dissecting it.
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Certainly wouldnt be putting me off. Altior has never been a horse I've really warmed to but the fact remains hes unbeaten over two miles and also around Cheltenham.Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
The stats boys will tell you being 11 is a good enough reason not to be favourite...
11 year olds don't win Championship races
Wouldn't put me off, I'm not a slave to such stats
Previous years I just couldn't back him at the price but this year at 7/1 hes definitely backable.
If they both turn up I see it as a 2 horse race (Chancun & Altior)
Couldn't be having Politilogue on my mind. I suppose PTKO could keep on suprising us but I very much doubt it
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7/1 looks good for Altior, but if I told you it was 7/1 for an 11 year horse, only managed 2 starts last year and hasn't been seen on course for almost a year would you be as enthusiastic?Comment
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Wouldn't read anything into that at all. Two completely different races. Both were Hugely impressive though and jumping won them their races more so than anything else. That's the name of the game. Not got a penny on eitherOriginally posted by sprintersacren View Post
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I'm in camp Altior. I felt it was heart over head before writing this, but as I typed out this post I realised that it just makes sense as a bet, IMO of course.
Age has to be the defining factor in Altior's price no? He had excuses when blotting his copybook vs Cyrname, but he hasn't done anything wrong has he. We just haven't seen him.
Personally, I think 7/1 is a great price and don't think people should be put off by his age. Since 1959 there have been 11 winners aged 10, 2 winners aged 11, and 1 winner aged 12. The history books certainly don't tell us it can't be done, and he is campaigned very sparingly for a horse his age - we've only seen him 3 times since March 2019.
Whilst backing 11 year-olds in Championship races would no doubt be a quick way to the poor house, I think, as in all walks of life, exceptions can be made - and Altior is the exception.
When Sprinter won I just remember looking up at '5/1' on the big screen and thinking to myself 'how the fuck have I let him go unbacked at 5/1' and that's exactly what I'd be thinking were Altior to do the business in March, so I can't make the same mistake twice.
Blows my mind a little bit that people have commented on backing him 'many times' which must have been at long odds on, but wouldn't take 7/1?!? Weak division, 4/4 at festival, older horses win this, and we know from what happened over the weekend that it's all about March.
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