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Queen Mother Champion Chase 2021

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  • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
    I was gonna add him in my vs list but always struggle with the spelling so fucked him off.
    I was going to google it, but just managed to get it right (I think) PMSL

    Its such a arsee of a name to type out

    Same with Un Des Sceaux

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    • Originally posted by archie View Post
      Race times yesterday:
      Rouge Vif 3m58.37s
      Fusil Raffles 3m57.10s

      Both carried 11st 7lb

      Visuals yesterday = impressive
      Timings = hmmmm

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      • Originally posted by opatcho View Post
        Visuals yesterday = impressive
        Timings = hmmmm
        The times ain't bad... it just wasn't anywhere near soft like folk were making out & Rogue whilst looking class has prob only run to his rating,he's been given an 165RPR & Fusil158, both look generous to me.

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        • Originally posted by Outlaw View Post
          The times ain't bad... it just wasn't anywhere near soft like folk were making out & Rogue whilst looking class has prob only run to his rating,he's been given an 165RPR & Fusil158, both look generous to me.
          Its the timings in comparsion to Fusil Raffles, who I'm sure most will say 'wont be winning a CCQM'

          Rouge Vif 3m58.37s
          Fusil Raffles 3m57.10s

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          • Originally posted by opatcho View Post
            Its the timings in comparsion to Fusil Raffles, who I'm sure most will say 'wont be winning a CCQM'

            Rouge Vif 3m58.37s
            Fusil Raffles 3m57.10s
            Yeah fair comment, prob could easily go up in trip but until beaten at 2M why would they.

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            • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
              Wasn't it the tingle creek he mentioned ?
              Schloer is a grade 2.
              Probably Q , I was multi'tasking , reading the race cards on R.Post.
              and listening to the i.t.v opening show. and making a brew !

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              • Rogue Vif doesn't win the QMCC
                and
                Fusil Raffles doesn't win the Arkle.



                Easy.

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                • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                  I like the Notebook angle too and 33-1 would look massive, if he'd have missed the arkle through a stone bruise.
                  WE'd have had him as the moral winner I reckon.

                  I'll almost certainly add him once I see some more evidence of how the novices are faring in open company.
                  Cant have Notebook at all. Course form a must. Nice performance from Rouge Vif in a weak race. He's got 20L to find with PTKO and they're the same price?????

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                  • Originally posted by doctorwu View Post
                    Cant have Notebook at all. Course form a must. Nice performance from Rouge Vif in a weak race. He's got 20L to find with PTKO and they're the same price?????
                    I thought the same, but his form elsewhere stacks up really well, and the trainer clearly thought he was better than the mare.
                    So I'd be prepared to accept the crowd upsetting him theory, even though he did the same in Ireland and still won.
                    But he's a watching brief for now.

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                    • Originally posted by Quevega View Post
                      I thought the same, but his form elsewhere stacks up really well, and the trainer clearly thought he was better than the mare.
                      So I'd be prepared to accept the crowd upsetting him theory, even though he did the same in Ireland and still won.
                      But he's a watching brief for now.
                      For me there's no question his (Notebook) chances improve significantly if 65,000 punters aren't there.
                      Will look to cover him in due course probably...

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                      • Betfred seem to have left Rouge Vif at 25/1 for the Tingle Creek.

                        If he is 16/1 for the Champion Chase, and between 8/1 and 12/1 for the Tingle Creek with all of the other firms, then I would think that Betfred tomorrow morning will slash Rouge Vif to single figures for the Tingle Creek.
                        "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                        • Going to join in with some and back Notebook, for me 33s is value for a horse which beat Fakir, (from memory was giving the mares weight allowance when it beat it at Leopardstown), and that form line seems sound with Fakir going on to be a good second to PTKO in the Arkle. As Istabraq says a small crowd might play in its favour in March, and I take on board that its unproven at Cheltenham, but 33s has swayed me.

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                          • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
                            Betfred seem to have left Rouge Vif at 25/1 for the Tingle Creek.

                            If he is 16/1 for the Champion Chase, and between 8/1 and 12/1 for the Tingle Creek with all of the other firms, then I would think that Betfred tomorrow morning will slash Rouge Vif to single figures for the Tingle Creek.
                            Rouge Vif cut to 12/1 from 25/1 for the Tingle Creek by Betfred this morning, bringing them in line with the best price available.
                            "Journeys to Glory, breathing in his head".

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                            • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
                              Rouge Vif cut to 12/1 from 25/1 for the Tingle Creek by Betfred this morning, bringing them in line with the best price available.
                              We'll done for highlighting. Hope those that fancy he for the race got on !

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                              • Originally posted by Saxon Warrior View Post
                                Rouge Vif cut to 12/1 from 25/1 for the Tingle Creek by Betfred this morning, bringing them in line with the best price available.
                                Wrong price admittedly but more likely to go to the Shloer than take on the heavy hitters in the Tingle you feel?

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