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Queen Mother Champion Chase 2021

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  • Originally posted by darlojim View Post
    I think archie has alluded to it a fair few times and its obvious now he has been regressing slowly for a fair while:
    Nice to see someone was paying attention.

    Given his history, while he is by some way the most likely winner, CPS cannot be backed with cash as a single until NRNB. The more I look at it, the more I think that Politologue is an each way steal.

    It will be interesting to read the feedback on the beaten horses from Nicky and HdB.

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    • Only Henderson will know the true fitness of Altior today. Hes done it before with these older horses.

      I've never been a massive fan of Altior in all honesty. Always looked vulnerable to me throughout his racing career but I certainly wouldnt be giving up hope on him after today.

      Ok it looks like the speed has diminished but this is Kempton not Cheltenham.

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      • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
        Only Henderson will know the true fitness of Altior today. Hes done it before with these older horses.

        I've never been a massive fan of Altior in all honesty. Always looked vulnerable to me throughout his racing career but I certainly wouldnt be giving up hope on him after today.

        Ok it looks like the speed has diminished but this is Kempton not Cheltenham.
        Shishkin’s race over 2.5 seconds quicker than Nubre Negra’s race
        shishkin carrying a few pounds more too

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        • Originally posted by Liammet View Post

          Shishkin’s race over 2.5 seconds quicker than Nubre Negra’s race
          shishkin carrying a few pounds more too
          Shishkin is one hell of a beast ...... the only thing that worries me now with my bets down on him for the arkle is ..... could he be switched to this if we have bad news in the coming days regarding Altior

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          • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post

            Shishkin is one hell of a beast ...... the only thing that worries me now with my bets down on him for the arkle is ..... could he be switched to this if we have bad news in the coming days regarding Altior
            I know wee shouldn't position opinion as fact, but there is 0% chance of that happening

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            • Originally posted by robith View Post

              I know wee shouldn't position opinion as fact, but there is 0% chance of that happening
              The words of Nico has raised the alarm bells for me.

              "Shishkin would have won that easily" in relation to the Altior race.

              I live in fear

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              • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post

                Shishkin is one hell of a beast ...... the only thing that worries me now with my bets down on him for the arkle is ..... could he be switched to this if we have bad news in the coming days regarding Altior
                Id be very surprised if nicky did that

                He tends to take a softly softly approach

                And lets be honest shiskin beat nothing today

                Gumball went miles too fast (which is why the time was good) and the others in the race were useless

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                • Prediction from me .......... Shishkin will dominate this division for years to come.

                  Do I think he would win a champion chase this year with an entry ?

                  Without Doubt YES

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                  • Altior is older and slower, I think possibly 7L off his peak. A bit ring rusty today and giving weight. He will improve for the run and finish ahead of Nube Negra next time I think.
                    Chacun pour Soi for me and the 2022 QMCC

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                    • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post
                      Prediction from me .......... Shishkin will dominate this division for years to come.

                      Do I think he would win a champion chase this year with an entry ?

                      Without Doubt YES
                      I'm not sure hed beat chacun this year

                      Chacun has a very very high cruising speed

                      Gumball got shiskin off the bridle today

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                      • Originally posted by FinalFurlong91 View Post

                        I'm not sure hed beat chacun this year

                        Chacun has a very very high cruising speed

                        Gumball got shiskin off the bridle today
                        Compare Shishkin and Chacun at the finish.

                        One was head in chest pulling away and the other was very tired.

                        Shishkin has everything. He settles, he jumps, he stays and has shown he can battle when needed.

                        I see no chinks in the armour.

                        I've backed Chacun and clearly hes top level but I truly believe Shishkin is a monster.

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                        • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post

                          The words of Nico has raised the alarm bells for me.

                          "Shishkin would have won that easily" in relation to the Altior race.

                          I live in fear
                          Is that a genuine quote?

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                          • Originally posted by Goldentouch View Post

                            Is that a genuine quote?
                            Yes

                            At the races

                            The actual quote ..... "Shishkin would have won that by miles"
                            Last edited by Kautothegreat8; 27 December 2020, 06:42 PM.

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                            • Sad to see Altior like that but even the best can't go on forever. The winner was hugely impressive, travelled all over them the whole race.

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                              • Originally posted by Kautothegreat8 View Post

                                Yes

                                At the races

                                The actual quote ..... "Shishkin would have won that by miles"
                                Quite shocked to hear Nico being so outspoken.

                                Skelton has confirmed that CC is the target for Nube

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