Queen Mother Champion Chase 2021

[ComplyOrDie]

A great weekend for me all round. My biggest AP bet comes in and my daughter gives me our first Grandchild !!

Congratulations

[Kevloaf]

Forgot you know best Kev ,betting markets suggest otherwise .

All about opinions , that was a staying on performance.

Lack of class in this reply.

Lack of understanding of the tone/emojis.

Lack of understanding about ante post betting markets too.

Lack of understanding on what my opinion is.



If you would send the Arkle winner to anywhere but a QMCC, then I'm thrilled you don't own her. That isn't offensive

Also, just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean it's right...just like if you're offended, it doesn't justify your opinion.



I'm disappointed that you think my reply was anything other than a playful response.

Toys out of the pram though, maybe read your own avatar

[Pendil]

Congratulations Lobos, don't stay up too late

[doctorwu]

A great weekend for me all round. My biggest AP bet comes in and my daughter gives me our first Grandchild !!

Superb news for you. You'll love it.

[BankofKauto]

Hills are still 14/1 and are also top price 20/1 on Fakir for the Ryanair. Seems a good double.

[The Beast]

Lack of class in this reply.

Lack of understanding of the tone/emojis.

Lack of understanding about ante post betting markets too.

Lack of understanding on what my opinion is.



If you would send the Arkle winner to anywhere but a QMCC, then I'm thrilled you don't own her. That isn't offensive

Also, just because you have an opinion, doesn't mean it's right...just like if you're offended, it doesn't justify your opinion.



I'm disappointed that you think my reply was anything other than a playful response.

Toys out of the pram though, maybe read your own avatar

You obviously know best ,cheers .

[FinalFurlong91]

She got outpaced then ran on

If she gets beaten in better races between now and the race the mares race must be perfectly likely

[Kevloaf]

She got outpaced then ran on

If she gets beaten in better races between now and the race the mares race must be perfectly likely

True enough of any horse.

I think connections have already displayed where they aim and what they want out of the game.

They picked the Arkle as an outsider over the easier option last year.

They've won a G1 and G2 over C&D, for me, it's obvious where they're aiming right now.



Who knows what happens between now and then

[archie]

Congrats Lobos.

That Robin De Carlow must be some tool!

Same as for the CH, while it's no surprise that those who have already had a bet would be looking for positives, I really don't see where any of today's racing would encourage anyone to go in again or for the first time. The going was horrible at both meetings and anything that had a hard race today might need a decent rest before turning out again.

[Quevega]

She made a pretty bad jump at the third last after going well enough down the hill.
DDG winged it, and was foot perfect jumping today.
after the mistake she was then ridden and then stayed on nicely up the hill.
IMO it was not so much being outpaced as she showed she's very good.

[Lobos]

Congrats Lobos.

That Robin De Carlow must be some tool!

Same as for the CH, while it's no surprise that those who have already had a bet would be looking for positives, I really don't see where any of today's racing would encourage anyone to go in again or for the first time. The going was horrible at both meetings and anything that had a hard race today might need a decent rest before turning out again.

Agree re the rest. Have backed Kettle for the Tingle Creek and think she'd have a great chance in that but think they'll freshen her up and go for the Desert Orchid now. She is a hard bitch though so you never know. Her owners are game for anything as well which is great to see. They deserve to own one as special as her.

[Lobos]

She made a pretty bad jump at the third last after going well enough down the hill.
DDG winged it, and was foot perfect jumping today.
after the mistake she was then ridden and then stayed on nicely up the hill.
IMO it was not so much being outpaced as she showed she's very good.

Yep, she was very steep at that and lost a few lengths and the leader gained several with a top jump but she still reeled him in and actually won quite cosily. I maintain that very few horses could have done the same today as she did. All of the very top horses find a way to win when things are against them and she did just that today. She has an outstanding chance in the Champion Chase imo and I wouldn't put anyone off backing her at her current odds. She is very much the one to beat as we sit here now.

[Quevega]

Yep, she was very steep at that and lost a few lengths and the leader gained several with a top jump but she still reeled him in and actually won quite cosily. I maintain that very few horses could have done the same today as she did. All of the very top horses find a way to win when things are against them and she did just that today. She has an outstanding chance in the Champion Chase imo and I wouldn't put anyone off backing her at her current odds. She is very much the one to beat as we sit here now.

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[Kevloaf]

Yep, she was very steep at that and lost a few lengths and the leader gained several with a top jump but she still reeled him in and actually won quite cosily. I maintain that very few horses could have done the same today as she did. All of the very top horses find a way to win when things are against them and she did just that today. She has an outstanding chance in the Champion Chase imo and I wouldn't put anyone off backing her at her current odds. She is very much the one to beat as we sit here now.

Do you think that performance today, beating Duc Des Genivres, has Willie Mullins scared for Chacun Pour Soi?

As Altior and CPS haven't been seen this season, she's laid down the marker....but NONE of her form yet puts her ahead of Altior, Min, Politilogue, Chacun Pour Soi does it?

Maybe you think it does? I appreciate CPS is 'glass' and Altior will be 11, but until we see them you can't jsut assume they're not good. Her actual form isn't proven to be amazing yet?





Really positive signs though, and you know I'm with you on PTKO, but you're now getting ahead of yourself IMO (but if you cna't celebrate when you get something right, then there is no enjoyment!)

[Jorvik]

Same as for the CH, while it's no surprise that those who have already had a bet would be looking for positives, I really don't see where any of today's racing would encourage anyone to go in again or for the first time. The going was horrible at both meetings and anything that had a hard race today might need a decent rest before turning out again.

Totally get what you're saying, but today showed that she has heart and will battle like a good 'en! There's no telling this far out how a race will be run on the day but for me that was a huge positive in the bank, she really wanted it. I don't know if she really is CC material, but there's enough questions to be answered by the others and she's not too much left to answer herself over C&D, with today on ground she wasn't a huge fan of. Chacun is 8 and only been seen as many times, Altior will be 11. I think 14/1 after todays race (now best price 10/1) represented great value.
Personally I stand do best of all if PTKO wins but would love to see Altior get up because i'm a sentimental moron and love him to bits. But objectively, she has to be well in with a chance.