Queen Mother Champion Chase 2021

[DenmanSacre]

Got to fancy the WPM forecast now that Cilaos Emery is declared.

[Diamond Geezer]

48 hour declarations

[Kevloaf]

The King Pimm 's Cilaos Emery "without CPS" looking good now after Willie was waffling about him not running.

[Istabraq]

Shame that, hopefully be retired after Aintree or Sandown if makes the track again.

Wonderful horse, one of the true greats of the modern era but clearly hard to get/keep healthy now in his advancing years, hopefully he is retired he owes no-one anything..

[Faugheen_Machine]

Henderson has had a shocker.
No runners in any novice hurdles and triumph.
Now this.
His campaigning of the JP horses very late.
A lot riding on Shishkin and Champ for him I reckon.

He's pissed peoples (owners) money up the wall this season.

Supposedly Britain's premier trainer and doesn't run his horses. Baffling

[Dessie the great]

What chase form gives Cilious Emery any right to finish in the frame here? Can't see it

[Kevloaf]

What chase form gives Cilious Emery any right to finish in the frame here? Can't see it

Well he's rated 165

Only 3 of the 10 have a higher chase rating. Chacun, Politilogue and First Flow.


Not that hard to see, even if you don't like him. If everything matched their best form on Official Ratings, then he'd be 4th?

[Bert]

“Scoped dirty”

[Dessie the great]

Well he's rated 165

Only 3 of the 10 have a higher chase rating. Chacun, Politilogue and First Flow.


Not that hard to see, even if you don't like him. If everything matched their best form on Official Ratings, then he'd be 4th?

That's a very simplistic view, Rouge Vif rated higher than PTKO on the back of winning a poor hcap off 157 but wouldn't have a hope of beating her if they both ran to form. CE has no G1 Chase form of note. Most of the rest of the field of open placed G1 form at the very least

[Kevloaf]

That's a very simplistic view, Rouge Vif rated higher than PTKO on the back of winning a poor hcap off 157 but wouldn't have a hope of beating her if they both ran to form. CE has no G1 Chase form of note. Most of the rest of the field of open placed G1 form at the very least

Well it was in response to your very simplistic dismissal of him.

I don't like reading "can't see it", it's just always easy to make look an over the top comment.


Better ways of putting it IMO.



Cilaos Emery missed the Arkle, given Duc Des Genivres won it, and he thrashed her on the time before.... is it not a bit silly to just dismiss him?

Obviously he hasn't 'done it', but it's not that hard to see he's at least worthy of a mention.

[Dessie the great]

Well it was in response to your very simplistic dismissal of him.

I don't like reading "can't see it", it's just always easy to make look an over the top comment.


Better ways of putting it IMO.



Cilaos Emery missed the Arkle, given Duc Des Genivres won it, and he thrashed her on the time before.... is it not a bit silly to just dismiss him?

Obviously he hasn't 'done it', but it's not that hard to see he's at least worthy of a mention.

Yes worthy of a mention but is hardly nailed on to follow Chacun home as has been suggested here given that he has so much to prove.

DDG seems to be a bit of a Cheltenham specialist himself given that his best two runs have been around the old course.

[Kevloaf]

Yes worthy of a mention but is hardly nailed on to follow Chacun home as has been suggested here given that he has so much to prove.

DDG seems to be a bit of a Cheltenham specialist himself given that his best two runs have been around the old course.

I don't think anyone said he's nailed on to follow him home?

He was highlighted at 25/1 (28/1) NRNB in the without market.

Given he's now best price 18/1, I'd say it was a good bet, and all I was doing was saying it was looking good now....was pleased for TKP to get a run for it....

[Dessie the great]

I don't think anyone said he's nailed on to follow him home?

He was highlighted at 25/1 (28/1) NRNB in the without market.

Given he's now best price 18/1, I'd say it was a good bet, and all I was doing was saying it was looking good now....was pleased for TKP to get a run for it....

That's fair. Will prob end up with egg on my face anyways

[opatcho]

So....

The mighty Altior is out of the festival. Gutted!!
I was a keen follower and backed him at the start of the season for this, on the basis I was yet to be convinced by CPS and his ability to remain healthy.
Such a shame, I just wanted to see whether he one last run in him

Unlikely to see him fly up that hill now

I think alot of people will still look back at that Ascot race, as its too much of a coincidence that both horses struggled to get back up to their best and have disruptive season

Such a shame.

[Carnage at Taunton]

So....

The mighty Altior is out of the festival. Gutted!!
I was a keen follower and backed him at the start of the season for this, on the basis I was yet to be convinced by CPS and his ability to remain healthy.
Such a shame, I just wanted to see whether he one last run in him

Unlikely to see him fly up that hill now

I think alot of people will still look back at that Ascot race, as its too much of a coincidence that both horses struggled to get back up to their best and have disruptive season

Such a shame.

Yep, i am one of those people.