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  • Has The Storyteller been confirmed here now after yesterday's super run ?? Think he would be a threat in the Stayers so would prefer him going for the big one.

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    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
      Has The Storyteller been confirmed here now after yesterday's super run ?? Think he would be a threat in the Stayers so would prefer him going for the big one.
      He's not entered at present

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post
        Has The Storyteller been confirmed here now after yesterday's super run ?? Think he would be a threat in the Stayers so would prefer him going for the big one.
        Pretty sure that the Stayers is still the main target.

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

          He's not entered at present
          That's that then.

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          • Originally posted by Nortons who View Post
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            Note : Champ would have to win a prep Chase, not on Heavy ground and move up the betting to be in a similar position.
            Great work Nortons who

            Was just about to come out and ask if Champ wins his prep would be qualify too, but just saw the note on the bottom

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            • Nortons who

              Have to say whilst I don't apply trends religiously I am keen to understand how they affect performance/results and that heavy ground stat is one that's always stood out over the years.
              I might just have to get A Plus Tard onside somewhere and I'm not a huge fan of the horse...

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              • Originally posted by archie View Post

                I am clearly biased but I think that Kemboy should have beaten APT at Christmas and would have beaten him yesterday if he'd turned up.

                That said, I'd prefer APT's chances at Cheltenham although I'd be firmly back with Kemboy at Punchestown.
                You could be right Archie, as I said him & melon would have done each other no favours that day. Thought APT was given a very nice ride though. Is there much in it that pundits are saying Xmas would have been much more kemboy’s favoured ground, or has that been a bit overblown?

                I see he was given the same RPR figure for his win yesterday as his 2nd in the Lexus. Great to see him win his first big one since the ownership debacle anyhow mate, congrats.

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                • Originally posted by ToniC View Post

                  You could be right Archie, as I said him & melon would have done each other no favours that day. Thought APT was given a very nice ride though. Is there much in it that pundits are saying Xmas would have been much more kemboy’s favoured ground, or has that been a bit overblown?

                  I see he was given the same RPR figure for his win yesterday as his 2nd in the Lexus. Great to see him win his first big one since the ownership debacle anyhow mate, congrats.
                  Cheers. As he gets older and stronger, the ground thing is probably overplayed, not least by Willie.

                  At Christmas, David had some stick for going too soon but, for me, he went too late because Kemboy stays very well without having a finishing kick. I thought he could have pinched enough of a lead that APT couldn't have clawed back. That 'very nice ride' earned the jockey a holiday for excessive use of the whip.

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                  • Originally posted by archie View Post

                    I am clearly biased but I think that Kemboy should have beaten APT at Christmas and would have beaten him yesterday if he'd turned up.

                    That said, I'd prefer APT's chances at Cheltenham although I'd be firmly back with Kemboy at Punchestown.

                    ...chuffed to bits for you re Kemboy. Apologies if you’ve mentioned, but is the Stayers a serious consideration? (Surprised 33-1 is holding up).

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                    • Originally posted by Eggs View Post


                      ...chuffed to bits for you re Kemboy. Apologies if you’ve mentioned, but is the Stayers a serious consideration? (Surprised 33-1 is holding up).
                      Cheers.

                      As it stands, everything is still in the mix. That includes Cheltenham (Gold Cup or Stayers), Aintree, Punchestown and Auteuil. All you can guarantee is that Willie will leave his options open for as long as possible.

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                      • Lostintranslation: is there any hope he again runs a big one in the big one?

                        Similar form to last year.
                        Tizzards tend to improve in the spring.
                        Stats would disagree about winning after a failed first attempt but Native River did it from same stable.
                        Small fields likely skew this figure but hasn't been out of the first 3 in all completed chases.
                        Has ran 3 good races over fences on the New course so track obviously suits.

                        Price has drifted - 20/1 NRNB with PP - possibly a leap of faith but I think he could be a decent EW play.

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                        • The following have all been scratched from the Gold Cup

                          Acapella Bourgeois
                          Bristol de Mai
                          Castlebawn West
                          Itchy Feet
                          Lake View Lad
                          Lord du Mesnil
                          Mister Malarky
                          Monalee
                          Presenting Percy
                          Spyglass Hill
                          Terrefort
                          Waiting Patiently

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                          • Originally posted by jonthehammer View Post
                            The following have all been scratched from the Gold Cup

                            Acapella Bourgeois
                            Bristol de Mai
                            Castlebawn West
                            Itchy Feet
                            Lake View Lad
                            Lord du Mesnil
                            Mister Malarky
                            Monalee
                            Presenting Percy
                            Spyglass Hill
                            Terrefort
                            Waiting Patiently
                            Just for a change, totally unaffected by this. Waiting Patiently though for other shoe to drop....

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                            • Wonder if Percy is still in the Ryanair? Had a little NRNB go with him in that.

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                              • Originally posted by isitmarchyet View Post
                                Wonder if Percy is still in the Ryanair? Had a little NRNB go with him in that.
                                Still there at the moment

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