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Gold Cup 2021

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  • That race was just missing the legend Don Poli

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    • Originally posted by jonthehammer View Post
      HMS Santini Sunk...........

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      • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

        I can't see any scenario that he wins a GC.
        If they kick too early or go too quick then he'll be still going so it's entirely possible as last year showed.

        He may never win a Gold cup, and you are entitled to rule him out, we all have to make a call at some point.

        But it's daft to not be able to see a scenario for him to win.

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        • Originally posted by Quevega View Post

          If they kick too early or go too quick then he'll be still going so it's entirely possible as last year showed.

          He may never win a Gold cup, and you are entitled to rule him out, we all have to make a call at some point.

          But it's daft to not be able to see a scenario for him to win.
          My thoughts exactly.

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          • Santini only out to 10/1

            I was hoping they got silly.

            Never going to happen given that he was beaten a head I suppose....

            Although you'd think he was thrashed by some of the comments on here

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            • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
              Santini only out to 10/1

              I was hoping they got silly.

              Never going to happen given that he was beaten a head I suppose....

              Although you'd think he was thrashed by some of the comments on here
              And it was obvious he needed that run so 10/1 sounds about right.

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              • I think that was better result than his seasonal reappearance last season and think how far he improved for the cotsworld . Aintree is not a track that is set up to suit santini but two furlongs out I did think he would grind that out and get up (race fitness?) . It is very amusing seeing santini off the bridle and being worked 9 furlongs out , but he does just plod on by and i thought he would win when he went upside. He is rated too high for the national is would carry too much weight surely. I can still see him in the frame march and thought the bookies would keep him at current odds .

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                • on the negative side hes been beaten by a 10 year old handicapper.

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                  • Originally posted by Kevloaf View Post
                    Santini only out to 10/1

                    I was hoping they got silly.

                    Never going to happen given that he was beaten a head I suppose....

                    Although you'd think he was thrashed by some of the comments on here
                    kev, I really can't believe you would back Santini after that. Don't do it to yourself please

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                    • Originally posted by Lobos View Post

                      kev, I really can't believe you would back Santini after that. Don't do it to yourself please
                      I would have at the right price.

                      If they'd have taken the form literally, beaten by a 10yo handicapper, they could poush him out to 50/1 ..... then based on his GC run last year, I'd lap that up.


                      I'm obviously exaggerating that price, but 16/1 would have had me considering it... 20/1 I reckon I'd have backed him.

                      He's half that, so while I definitely won't rule him out, I won't be backing him at that price.

                      Easy enough decision.

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                      • Santini needed the run there. He was carrying enough condition. Given we know Lake View Lad’s level of form I’m surprised anyone would do anything other than just ignore the race.
                        Luck is a dividend of sweat. The more I sweat, the luckier I get.

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                        • Hadn't backed Santini up to today, and won't be on the back of that. Fit or not, it was plenty enough below the standard required. It does give me a little more confidence that Champ may be Hendos number one for the GC now though.

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                          • Santini would need to be a furlong ahead of champ jumping the last for him not to fly past

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                            • Originally posted by Spectre View Post
                              Santini needed the run there. He was carrying enough condition. Given we know Lake View Lad’s level of form I’m surprised anyone would do anything other than just ignore the race.
                              Exactly, goldfish memories some folk seemingly. Not the biggest Santini fan in the world but to dismiss off the back of that just like some where last year is poor judgment.

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                              • Agree with Spectre that we didn't learn anything about Santini there other than he didn't look fit. Maybe a different pilot might have helped and ommitting all those fences made a mockery of the race overall. IMO we saw once again that Frodon probably doesn't have the stamina for the GC.

                                The most informative bit of GC news this weekend must be that WM is considering stepping Melon up in trip.
                                He must have known we now have a special emoji just for him

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