Gold Cup 2021

[The Beast]

For me Samcro shows far to much speed to be considered a GC horse , might only find out on the day if he stays as I can see him probably winning a mickey mouse race over 3m in ireland prior. A lot also will depend on Delta Work who I still firmly believe is a big player in GC. If you watch GC from start and watch Delta he makes several big errors. Something he didnt do in ireland throughout season and looked a class animal in process.Yes ive played , but only a small stake.

[FaugheenTheMachine]

Delta Work made at the least slight errors on every start in Ireland last season, loads on his first run of the season at Down Royal

[Silverbirch]

Delta Work made at the least slight errors on every start in Ireland last season, loads on his first run of the season at Down Royal

I think he was over run. There was absolutely no need for the race before the GC. Needs to be much more fresher this year imo.

[Saxon Warrior]

I think he was over run. There was absolutely no need for the race before the GC. Needs to be much more fresher this year imo.

He needs the right jockey on him, one that knows him (Davy or Jack K).
Jack Kennedy was on twice and won two Grade 1’s.

He jumped sloppily for Keith at Down Royal and Mark Walsh in the Gold Cup.

[Cheltenham Novice Chase]

His jumping technique is not great. He jumps fences like they’re hurdles in that he often doesn’t get enough elevation with his front legs. I think this makes him susceptible to jumping errors particularly when under pressure.

[Spectre]

I was reading some of my post-Festival notes over the weekend and I made this note against Delta Work - Needs organising better at his fences/too chancy. Perhaps better for Davy/Kennedy. A horse to consider for a switch back to hurdles for a Stayers Hurdle campaign?

Given Samcro is a possible for the Gold Cup and Delta Work is a dicey jumper, if that trait continues perhaps they'd consider a switch back to hurdles. There's no point in having both in the Gold Cup. Samcro is already proven to be both the better horse, and also a better jumper of a fence.

[Istabraq]

Interesting that Spectre.
I don’t know what Giggs long term plans are, the ‘we’re getting out’ press conference hasn’t materialised, yes they’ve downsized but still retain a large Portfolio of horses and most are very good.
They’ve proved time and time again that multiple entries in the same race is their strategy so having them both (and more possibly) run in the Gold Cup is more likely than unlikely, but it will only take a mistake of two by Delta Work and your theory could easily land correct...

[KingSprinterSacre]

Delta work is a 5 times Grade 1 winner over fences, 2 of those Grade 1s in open company last season.
He should be coming into prime now as a 7year old turning 8.

I'd be hugely surprised if Delta work ends up anywhere else bar the Gold cup.
Interesting theory all right but just not one i see for this season

[Lobos]

I was reading some of my post-Festival notes over the weekend and I made this note against Delta Work - Needs organising better at his fences/too chancy. Perhaps better for Davy/Kennedy. A horse to consider for a switch back to hurdles for a Stayers Hurdle campaign?

Given Samcro is a possible for the Gold Cup and Delta Work is a dicey jumper, if that trait continues perhaps they'd consider a switch back to hurdles. There's no point in having both in the Gold Cup. Samcro is already proven to be both the better horse, and also a better jumper of a fence.

I'd question whether Samcro has proven to be the better horse......... surely not...............yet.

[Kevloaf]

I was reading some of my post-Festival notes over the weekend and I made this note against Delta Work - Needs organising better at his fences/too chancy. Perhaps better for Davy/Kennedy. A horse to consider for a switch back to hurdles for a Stayers Hurdle campaign?

Given Samcro is a possible for the Gold Cup and Delta Work is a dicey jumper, if that trait continues perhaps they'd consider a switch back to hurdles. There's no point in having both in the Gold Cup. Samcro is already proven to be both the better horse, and also a better jumper of a fence.

Whilst you can never say never, have Gigginstown shown any previous for this kind of move?

Alpha Des Obeaux ran in the Stayers Hurdle but that was before he'd ever been chasing wasn't it - I just can't imagine they'd do it with this horse.....



but you might want to get him priced on the exchanges at get some 999.0

[Spectre]

999.0 would do me Kev.

Apples Jade last season. Swan song obviously, and very different circumstances, but it makes sense for Gigi and Gordon to add the race to their list of targets. It’s a race they miss out on by sending multiple horses to other races when they predominantly buy future stayers. It’s odd that they’ve never targeted it or won it. It’s never too late to switch a horse back that isn’t the most fluent jumper. You have to be first class in that department to win a Gold Cup. Delta Work fits that bill imo despite his G1 wins over fences. Let’s put it this way. He isn’t winning the Gold Cup. It’s not as if there isn’t previous for this in the race either.

[Kevloaf]

999.0 would do me Kev.

Apples Jade last season. Swan song obviously, and very different circumstances, but it makes sense for Gigi and Gordon to add the race to their list of targets. It’s a race they miss out on by sending multiple horses to other races when they predominantly buy future stayers. It’s odd that they’ve never targeted it or won it. It’s never too late to switch a horse back that isn’t the most fluent jumper. You have to be first class in that department to win a Gold Cup. Delta Work fits that bill imo despite his G1 wins over fences. Let’s put it this way. He isn’t winning the Gold Cup. It’s not as if there isn’t previous for this in the race either.

She'd never been chasing though? I can't recall any horse of theres reverting back after going chasing at anywhere near the top level?


Literally speaking, there is more chance of him winning a Gold Cup than a Stayers Hurdle still?

He was only beaten 6.25L too, without Jack Kennedy on board.



Whilst I don't disagree that he might be good enough to be involved in a Stayers Hurdle, I just don't see any previous that would suggest a Grade 1 winner over fences over 3m, the following season, at 8 years old, would revert to hurdles.



999.0 will be a value non-runner

[Ray]

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[Hardy Eustace]

i havent done this yet. Maybe I should have more courage in my conviction. I suppose the reason I am doubting myself is because he has some top class form over 2 miles.

BUT

I watched the Ryanair again last night and, to me, A PLUS TARD lacked a bit of a turn of foot and looked almost a little bit outpaced as they turned for home, it got me wondering could this fella be a potential dark horse for the gold cup?

Would make sense to split him and Allaho - maybe he will go up and allaho will go down in trip.

Its certainly got me thinking. I would welcome any views on this (feel free to shoot me down!) - am I going mad or would a specualitve couple of quid on the exchanges be a good idea...

[Lobos]

i havent done this yet. Maybe I should have more courage in my conviction. I suppose the reason I am doubting myself is because he has some top class form over 2 miles.

BUT

I watched the Ryanair again last night and, to me, A PLUS TARD lacked a bit of a turn of foot and looked almost a little bit outpaced as they turned for home, it got me wondering could this fella be a potential dark horse for the gold cup?

Would make sense to split him and Allaho - maybe he will go up and allaho will go down in trip.

Its certainly got me thinking. I would welcome any views on this (feel free to shoot me down!) - am I going mad or would a specualitve couple of quid on the exchanges be a good idea...

Couple of quid never hurt anyone. Personally think he just ran flat in Ryanair and more likely to drop down in trip if at all.